Off The Hook

Two Bail Agents Break Down A Category Five Hurricane, A New Bail Law, And A Wild Fugitive Capture Story

• Chad and Rob • Episode 1025

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A hurricane roars toward Jamaica while the ground shifts under our feet at home, and we’re trying to make sense of both. We start with the uneasy calm of coastal life—stocking up, watching the radar, calculating risk—and move straight into the human ripple effects of a potential government shutdown: SNAP benefits on the line, rumors of retail lockdowns, and the tricky business of separating facts from what your feed serves you. It’s messy out there, and we talk through how to prepare, what to believe, and who pays when a storm—natural or political—hits the most vulnerable first.

From there, we get personal. One of us relied on benefits after a layoff while raising a kid alone, and only needed them until work returned. That story becomes our North Star for what safety nets should do: stabilize in a crisis, then step back. We wrestle with abuse, accountability, and the case for small community service requirements. Health enters the frame too: if benefits nudge better choices, the whole system saves on preventable hospital bills. It’s less about punishment and more about building a path out that actually holds.

Then we roll up our sleeves for Irena’s Law in North Carolina—limits on cashless bail for violent crimes, tighter rules for repeat offenders, mental health evaluations, and stronger oversight when courts don’t follow through. As bail agents, we break down the real workflow: what magistrates set, what judges overturn, and why one headline can distort how the system actually functions. To ground it, we share a wild field story that ends with a defendant hidden inside a torn box spring. It’s gritty, darkly funny, and a reminder that justice isn’t abstract—it’s a knock on a door, a name that finally checks out, and a ride to the jail that doesn’t always smell like roses.

We wrap with Halloween banter, merch shoutouts, and news about a live meet-and-greet with VIP seating and Q&A. If you care about public safety, fairness, and common sense in a world that often lacks it, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves true stories from the front lines, and drop a review to tell us what you think—and what you want us to tackle next.

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Very fine people on both sides.

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These are real stories, but the names have been changed.

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What's happening, everybody? Rob here. And Chad, what's up? Oh man. Hey man, how's uh how was your weekend, brother?

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Alright. Pretty good? Mm-hmm. Man, it's we had a party at the clubhouse. It was Yeah, you sent me a video on that. That was pretty cool. Yeah, they uh they played some cool like old RB stuff. And uh dude had like you know doing a saxophone solo and they were really good. They're really good. They played a couple times. Um Carl Newton band, that's what it is. There you go. Oh, thank you.

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Thank you. Yeah, they uh uh I was I saw them I saw them at your that clubhouse when they played the first time. That was that was pretty good. Yeah, I saw Bethany getting down.

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She was dancing.

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All the women in that place were were getting down. They were jamming. Um the dudes just kind of stand back and go.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you're unless you're chad and you had a few had a few drinks, he just pumbles through every baby.

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No, I kept it pretty, pretty um non-drinking. Yeah, yeah. Just had like a couple beers.

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Oh man, I tell you what, dude. I like I told you this morning, I throw out so much shout out to off the hook bell bonds at our shows.

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Hey, it's smart. I mean, it's it's like your that's your potential client. Like if they've been drinking and going to drive, right?

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They love coming to see us, and now they're like, oh hey, I'm like, and if I'm like, hey, don't drive, don't drink and drive. It's stupid to do that. But if you are wanting to be the one of ones that's going to be stupid, give me a call. Off the hook bell bonds up there on the wall. My name's up there all the way.

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You can tell people all day, man. Some people are still gonna take that chance. So yeah, yeah.

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I I've seen it, man. This is crazy. We see it every day. Yeah, and then and then now I'm suffering now today because we had two shows. We had one Saturday, one on Sunday, and my legs have been cramping up, man. That's horrible.

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You need some potassium, man.

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Uh, I need to go eat me a whole thing of bananas.

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Yeah, actually, um, what is it? There's it's not as much as people think in bananas, but anyway, it'll help, yeah. Actually, potatoes has as it too. Oh, really? Yeah. Um, apricots are strong, uh bigger than that too. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, or you could get some electrolytes.

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Yeah. I I've been chugging, I chugged that liquid IV down. It has it has a bunch of electrolytes in it. That and Gatorade. I took both of them down last night and I felt better like this morning, but my my muscles are sore. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. What you got on there, Doug Chad?

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I got the new. The new new.

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The new new? The new new. The new new. Turn around, Chad. Can you see it? Oh, yeah. Hang on, let me move the yeah, he got the trigger fish. He got the trigger fish, ladies and gentlemen. It's available. It's unavailable. Off the hook.

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People are loving this thing, man. Where's it at? Off the hook gear. Gear.shop shop. Yeah, off the hook gear. It's available. People are loving this thing, man. I'm I'm selling a bunch of them.

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I'm telling you, man, that's probably one of the smartest moves you made.

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I had fun with it. I mean, it just kind of fell in my lap, you know.

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Of course, I've got, you know, I've got the off the hook gear on, and I my shirt here is the one of the OG shirts. Yeah, cool. I got the original logo. I got the original on today. Sweet. It's kind of like, what do I want to wear today? Octopus, trigger fish, hogfish, you know, OG. Who knows? Yeah.

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So we're coming up on Halloween.

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Yes. Halloween. Halloween.

unknown:

Ooh.

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Do you get many trick-or-treaters in your neighborhood?

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Dude, people come. Yes. People that aren't from our neighborhood come to our neighborhood because they think, oh, the good, you know. Yeah, yeah. And then like they can hit a lot of houses. Pretty big neighborhood, you know.

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Get a lot of Dollar Tree candy. No, man. No, dude. They get the good stuff.

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They get, yeah. Some of my neighbors, man, the big bars. Oh, really? They get the big stuff. The big bars.

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Man, I need to come out there and dress. That ain't me.

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I ain't doing that, but there are my neighbors that do it. I mean.

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Oh man.

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Are the king-sized freaking Reese cups? I don't know, but I've seen like the big Hershey's bars and the Mr. Good Bar, you know, the bigs.

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I need to come over there and come trick a treat.

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Full-size kit cat bar, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, man. I'm I'm considering it, you know. You know. Putting on a little costume and and riding around. Dump some blood on me.

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What do you? I'm a zombie. Yeah. Need need candy. It's gonna be hard to get past it. That's gonna be fun, man.

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We're working.

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Oh, yeah, we are. Yeah, we're working.

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We're doing security this weekend.

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Yeah, I might uh I might be able to do something afterwards, but man, I don't know. I'm gonna be too tired to do anything standing around. But anyway, uh what do we um what do we got in up uh topics now?

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Oh god me a little list. Okay so number one, we have the hurricane that's currently about to hit Jamaica. Oh man, that's gonna as a category five.

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Man, that's gonna tear that place up.

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That sucks. Yeah, man.

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It's already that's already kind of poor out there, you know.

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Yeah, yeah. I was watching uh on TikTok. They a guy was doing a live from Jamaica. Yeah. And it's you know, things are getting real you know windy now, and it's still it's it's right on him at this moment while we're recording. Hadn't hit them yet. So I'm sure we'll hear, you know, tomorrow when this comes out, how bad it's Jamaica, you know. Just sad. I mean, because we made it all the way to the end of October. And uh nothing. Yeah, it's been it's been pretty quiet.

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We gotten lucky. We've gotten lucky this year, that's for sure.

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I mean every year they say this is gonna be the worst year.

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So you people at home listening, if you're not on the east coast, you don't understand really. It's it's kind of every year it's like, all right, we gotta prepare, you know, what happens because we usually get it every year. I mean, something. Yeah, we get something like cat one, cat twos are are common. But when you start getting three, fours, and even fives, it gets it's it destroys.

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Yeah, those are ones that that will devastate an area. Yeah, yeah.

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So and we've we've lived to it, and it's it's horrible. So let's pray for the people down in Jamaica.

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So also we got coming up in early November, we got people are going to be feeling the effects of the government shutdown when they lose their snap benefits. BBT, Snap, all that stuff, all that good stuff. And I wish we had pulled up some of the videos, all the people talking about what they're gonna do.

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Oh, don't worry, we have a new segment on the show that one we'll get to in shortly after we get through time.

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So everybody apparently doesn't care that the government is going to shut them off because they're just gonna take it upon themselves to go in these stores and steal from them. Well, I heard Walmart has taken precautions. If it's true, again, some of my information from TikTok.

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I know it's not always factual, but but okay, so that's that's uh another thing. So who do you believe? Because the media is all lies. Right.

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Yeah, TikTok is doesn't matter which side, you know, you're is what they feed you information, right? Yeah, yeah. So apparently, um, and it makes sense. Uh, Walmart sees the writing on the walls, they've seen the videos, and and they're um it'd be a smart move, but they're supposedly cut uh shutting the doors. You're gonna have to order online uh certain hours. I don't I think you can go in in the morning. I I don't have my exact facts. I wish I've been more prepared for this segment, but I literally just saw it a few minutes ago and it said that they were preparing to um that's gonna be interesting to see, especially we got Thanksgiving coming up. Yeah, that's that's the thing. Yeah, that too. But you know, I know some people need, but there are a lot of people that work the system. Oh, yeah. There are a lot of people that work the system and you know, are just mad because they gotta get off their ass and go work.

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So if I gotta do it, you can do it, right?

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Apparently, in order to keep some of your benefits, you have to at least do 15 hours of community service of some sort. I mean, you're getting shit for free. You're getting stuff for free. Get off your ass and go do something. I mean, if you're physically unable, I think you should get it.

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Well, you know, it it it was created to help people in need, like for a short period of time, not to stay on it.

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And it should be like, and I see that you know, I know some people are mad, but you know, Trump's getting rid of things like soft drinks. It all comes back to like you want to keep people healthy, right? Right. So if they get sick, you get diabetes, you gotta go to the hospital. Well, they're not gonna have money to pay for the hospital visit. So you could have prevented it if you would have been healthy to begin with, not make so many, you know, unnecessary trips to the hospital. So I mean, it's just I think it makes sense, folks. Think about it.

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Well, you know, I I'm not afraid to admit this. When my son was like four years old, uh, I got laid off from my job. I didn't know what I was gonna do. Right. I had no idea what I was gonna do.

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People in that situation need help.

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Yeah. And I didn't, you know, my ex-wife, she didn't pay no child support. She ain't never paid no child support uh ever since he was born. So of course I did it all myself, you know, and so I got it for six months. And that was that helped out tremendously for me to get back on my feet to get back to work again. But once I got back to work, I was like, hey, I don't need these no more. Thank you very much. That's exactly how it's supposed to work. That's how I that's why I pay my taxes.

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That was why it was created.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, it's you know, I understand people use it a lot more than like I did, but come on, it's like, you know, you where where's the line drawn? Where where where do you lie draw the line? You know, so yep.

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So what else you got over there? Uh I made a note about this of this upcoming election and uh the guy running in New York, Zondami. Oh yeah, the one who eats a wooden hand. Governor, governor, possible governor Zohan. Reminds me of that Adam Sandler movie. You remember the one where uh can't can't um can't something of Zohan Oh gosh, yes. I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up now because I I can't so so anyway, I mean there the video is like I was listening to Steven Crowder. Um he was showing videos of this dude doing an interview, and he's literally eating some kind of rice dish with his hands while he's talking in the interview. Like, that's nasty, dude. Like supposedly they have one hand for wiping their ass and one for eating. And that's too close. That's just gross, you know. Um if that's your train of thought, I don't I mean, just from that alone, I don't think you're gonna make a good governor. You don't mess with mayor, excuse me, mayor.

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You don't mess with his oh. That's you don't mess with a zohan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. So evidently, right? No, he's uh no, uh-uh. No, he's not Jewish. Uh I thought he was no, I don't know.

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No, Adam Sandler is Jewish.

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Yes, he is, but he played. No, he he's uh not sure what what he's like a spa or something.

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Guys been now I'm gonna go home and watch it.

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Saw it not too long ago anyway. It was so funny, but I guess Zohan is is is uh equivalent to uh a Smith or a Jones, right? I guess some some names.

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Here he goes, it's a fake erase it he raise Israeli Israeli commando term hairstylist, right? He is Jewish. Okay, all right. So but anyway, I mean this dude up in this dude up in New York, man.

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Straight up communist, man. Right it's not good.

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What are you people up in New York gonna do when he gets when he starts doing the things he's talking about doing?

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Yeah, yeah. You're all screwed. That's gonna go to hell up there in a handbasket real quick. Y'all want to come to San Francisco really quick, don't you? You're on your way. Um, yeah, speaking of that, San Francisco. Um I saw where what's his name? Governor um Newcomb. Newcomb. Yeah, Newsom. Yeah, he's talking about um making a run for president. And also Kamala says she's considering do it, do it, do it, Kamala.

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Do it, I dare you.

unknown:

Do it.

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I don't think you understand. People really don't want you. Yeah. Um, yeah, so that was funny. And then uh this the Irena's Law.

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Yes, comes into effect December 1st here.

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The Ukrainian girl that was stabbed on a train in Charlotte, North Carolina. Um, that started this new law, and it's named after her, and it goes into effect. Part of it goes into effect uh December 1st.

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I'm interested if we'll see what's gonna happen.

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So some of these some of these changes, um it ends cashless bail pertaining to us here. But like how though? Or certain violent crimes. Um stricter guidelines for repeated offenders. Seems like common sense to me. Okay. Um they've been getting a slap on the wrist. They've been getting a okay, you get out for free. Promise that you're gonna show up, you know, a little pinky swear. I promise.

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Now, around here in our little neck of the woods, the the magistrates are setting bonds, but as soon as they give their first appearance, the judges are overturning it. Overturning it.

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So yeah. So that that's how it rolls here is a judge can overrule what a magistrate says.

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Right.

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Doesn't work the other way. But um also mental health evaluations are required for certain individuals.

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Yeah.

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And that's one that we talk to a magistrate, and they seem to be saying that's going to be a problem.

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Um It's gonna be interesting to see what happens.

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But dude, we look out our window here every day and we see mental illness walking by.

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Speaking of mental illness, you want to go to our second. Okay, go ahead.

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And the last one is enhanced judicial oversight. This allows the state chief of justice to suspend magistrates who do not follow these laws.

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I don't think it's the magistrates. I think it's the judges.

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It starts with the magistrate, it ends with a judge.

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Yeah.

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I mean So that would apply to judges as well.

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I mean, they're they're going after judges, so I mean, yeah, but you know, initially you have the right to make bail when you come in. That's true. And I think what the then what they'll do is say the magistrate says, Well, fine, we ain't gonna even give you no demand bomb.

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We're gonna keep you in until you see a judge. Sometimes it's they do that. Or they'll set one so high that you can't get out. I've seen uh yeah, I saw one do that one time. That the guy got set a bond and he he was part of a biker gang. And uh he laughed and he said, Go ahead, judge, set your set your um the bond, and I'll my boys will get me out. He said, All right, ten million. Good God. Yeah, they can do it, they have the power. It can change though when you see a judge, but the magistrate, yeah, he he did that and um he's quiet after that. So can we oh yeah, so what's this segment?

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So, all right, so we came up with this idea, and we're gonna we're gonna deal with it and see if you guys like it. But this is gonna be our liberals of the week. Our liberal, our liberals of the week. And this is a good one to start off. I got the audio file for it. The winning winning liberal video of the week. Yes, yes, and these are liberals crying over Trump's victory, and you know what?

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You may have seen it, you may have heard it, but it's always Oh, I thought you were doing the one, like, what's your name?

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Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we're we're getting it. This is the one to start it off. Oh, okay. Don't worry, we're gonna get to that one because there's plenty of them. There's plenty of these people going absolutely crazy. Let's see here. You ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It's not gonna happen at Republican Captain. Go, go, returning to the Senate.

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I chose family, I chose women, I chose America. I love you.

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How the fuck is this still happening? All I've ever known politically is hatred. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done with you, I'm done with you and your mother and your sister. I'm just done with all of this.

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Those are great. Cry harder.

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So mentally, there's some mentally ill people. It's like arcade. So you don't see a bunch of there's not a bunch of mega, mega Republicans coming out with videos of them going crazy, right? We got some retarded ones on that side, okay? Some on both sides. I mean, well, but there's way more on the other way more you like unstable people on the left. So anyway, I figured that'd be a good one. Yeah, that's pretty good. Before we get into our story, we have to give a big shout out to our sponsor. Our sponsors, as soon as I can get the NCAA. The NCBAA. Here you go.

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So North Carolina Bale Associations, uh, they are great with helping with the bail laws, and they helped with this arenas law. So shout out to you guys. Thanks for sponsoring us.

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Julie's doing an awesome job out there. Like she's hit the ground running. And you're talking about female empowerment, there you go. I mean, that's that's the way, you know, that's it. I mean, I I like I like seeing it. Don't bother me none.

unknown:

Of course.

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Look, man, it's just whoever can do the job. Who's qualified? I don't know what color sex you are. Just do the damn job.

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But I do I do like seeing strong women like Michelle. Michelle, that woman, that woman, like she's badass.

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That's who she is, man. That's yeah, she's badass.

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So I I like seeing that. It's great. Right. Hey, Michelle. Hey, Michelle. Um, all right. So getting into our story. Our story comes out of Brunswick County. All right. Uh, it was at$10,000 bond. This is one I didn't help you with.

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This is one that you and uh Petey did.

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Yep, me and Petey a long time ago. Okay. So I figured this is kind of fitting because you know, Halloween is this weekend. Okay.

unknown:

All right.

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So I figured we did um kind of uh a scare one boo. Um it was boo-hooing, all right. So we get this file and it comes from Mark out of uh Columbus County. Yeah. And we're we're looking over it, man, and like we we get addresses, we look at addresses, and we look, you know, we start looking, and nobody nobody's seen her, of course. And then we find out that she had a sugar daddy slash boyfriend. And that they were saying somebody told us in the family that they thought all the time. So I'm like, all right, cool, you know, it's toxic relationship. We find him, we could probably find her. Yep. So we do some digging around, doing some asking around, and finally we get a name. Of the boyfriend? Name of the boyfriend. Okay. We're looking him up. Can't find him hardly. What was her charge? Uh hers was let me see, I gotta read on the border. It's drugs. Yeah. That was drug drug possession. You know, she was a meth head, you know.

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So more than likely he's an upstanding citizen too.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

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Right, right.

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Absolutely.

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She was just like, just Well, you know, you gotta you gotta kinda you're gonna hang out with that element, you know. You gotta be two Ps in a pod, right? Yeah. You would think.

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I I you would think, I I don't know what the I don't know what the situation was.

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Am I stereotyping a little bit, maybe?

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No, I don't because all right, so she was a white girl. You know, of course she was all like nasty looking. And well Sugar Day was an older black guy. Meth will do that to you. Yes. Make you do anything. It's funny how like oh god. I I've seen some like really bad videos of like these chicks tweaking out. Got the little pot marks, you know. They can't stand still, they're all over the place.

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Picking up their face and their own junk. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Pretty gross.

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Terrible. That's what we're dealing with. Okay. Got nothing in their name. Uh don't have a job. Don't take a bath, evidently.

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And not the easiest person to locate.

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No, no, you can smell them all day long, but you can't fucking locate them. Well, yeah.

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I don't want to have a job to get to.

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Yeah, right. Um so we finally narrowed it down, and I can't completely remember how we narrowed his address down uh or where he was staying. I think somebody told us, I believe. Somebody told us that where he lived at. It was like short-term living, like a little house. It was a nice house on steel. It was weird, it didn't add up. So of course me and Pete were outside going, man, this don't add up. You know, how in the hell are these two guys, these two people in here government assistance. Right. Evidently, I don't know. Uh so we go and start talking to the neighbors. And neighbors like, yeah, it's weird. They just moved in, and there's this chick that they're up at night, but it during the day you don't see him. I'm like, all right, and finally we figured out who he was and we followed him and come out, he was by himself. And we just cornered him, cornered him at the convenience store and said, Hey, look, we're looking for such and such. Uh well uh well we gotta name her. Um it wasn't name her, but Amy. Okay, great. Amy, Amy the meth head. I know one of them.

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Uh so anyway.

SPEAKER_04:

Tiffany works better.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh Tiffany?

unknown:

Tiffany.

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You wanna do Tiffany? Tiffany sounds more like she might do everyone. Okay. Well, we get Tiffany. Sorry to all the Tiffany's that might be listening out there. I'm just kidding.

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Okay, so Tiffany, we're gonna call her Tiffany now. Okay. So Tiffany, I said, What's up with her? He goes, Man, I'm sick and tired of that woman. I was like, and we were I'm kind of confused. I'm like, hold on, ain't she supposed to be like defending her? And he was like, Man, no, he goes, I'm tired of it. She's in the house right now, go get her. I was like, Huh?

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That wasn't that wasn't planned on the city. But this wasn't planned at all.

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He goes, Yeah, he goes, Man, I'm going to town, man. Man, it'd be great if you get her and get her out of my house. So when I get back, I got to work that way.

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Peace and quiet. It does not work that way.

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It does not, bro. And I'm just like, I'm looking at PD, I'm like, it ain't this easy. There's no way. There's gotta be something. Scrolling the dice big time, man. Yeah. So we get in the car and like we, it's only a mile down the road. We jet to the house real quick. Yep. And he tells us how to get in. So we don't have to kick no doors in or whatever. So we start, we go straight in the house. We announce ourselves, and we're in the house looking. And of course, it was crickets in there. You don't hear nothing.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah.

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And we're looking, we're looking, we're looking, and we're see if he's finding a good spot to hide. And Pete gets on the phone with the dude. He's like, dude, are you sure she's in here? He goes, Yeah, I promise, man. She look, man, look, I'm coming back to the house now. I'm like, all right. So of course we're starting to get kind of worried, like, he's coming back to the house. What's going on? Yeah, yeah. Is he really? Yeah, yeah. So we're, you know, we're preparing for, you know, a fight. Yeah, we've had to. But no. He gets there, he goes, and he he's he comes in the house, he goes, Hey man, come here. I'm like, yeah. He goes, right up, right up, right over here, right over here. And he points in the in the bedroom. I'm like, dude, we've already been in that bedroom and looked and pulled up, I put even pulled up the mattress. But here's the thing, okay. So the box springs were laying flat. I had one like this. Yeah, yeah, flat on the ground, right? On the floor.

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And then the mattress, and I we took the mattress, but tunnel out the the the box springs.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, that's what she did from underneath.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So I was like, all right, dude, you just go outside. All right. So we go back in there and we I ripped. I was like, Pity, gotta be underneath them box springs. So I picked the box springs up. I and there she was, holding like a little rolling pulley.

SPEAKER_04:

Curl up in that little hole. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I said, boo. And she goes, Oh, oh my god. Oh my god, I can't go to jail. I'm like, hey, you can. Come on, let's go.

SPEAKER_04:

Where are these bracelets? Let's go. Oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_05:

She couldn't stay still and ride on to her jail. Oh, dude, it was horrible. But but we got her. She stunked.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Man, sometimes I wanted to hog time and just put them in a bed and pick up. Don't get in my don't touch nothing. Don't breathe. Just stay alive until we get to the jail. She was nasty. But that's some of that Brunswick County shit.

SPEAKER_04:

Different breed, bro. It is, man. It's different down there. It's like funny how different areas have like they're just different.

SPEAKER_05:

I don't like Joe, like Brunswick County, Joe Dirt all day long.

SPEAKER_04:

Carolina Beach.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That's been an ongoing joke. I remember I went to my dentist and um I had to um I I had some wisdom teeth pulled later in life, and um, it caused crowding on my bottom. But anyway, I had uh like, you know, how they take the the the things and they tell you they do numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and I had like some higher numbers because of those wisdom teeth in my back molar area. And I looked at her and I was like, God, does this mean I gotta move to Carolina Beach?

SPEAKER_05:

Carolina Beach back in the day was rough. Yeah, yeah. Uh it's still it's a little, there's it's got some rough patches now, but it's gotten a lot better. But it's still, I'm not a huge fan of Carolina Beach.

SPEAKER_04:

We're just joking, Carolina Beach, man. You know, you know good and well, y'all ain't got no teeth on there. Y'all eat too many of them damn brisk donuts. Ain't got nothing in the water or something. I don't know, they're missing something.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh man, that was a another great, great story. Maybe we'll do one in Carolina Beach. I'm sure we got one somewhere down there. I don't know if we've done it. Oh yeah. We've done a few of them.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Gotta we got a nice little list there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

So um uh well, other than that, man, anything uh anything got you got anything going on?

SPEAKER_04:

No, but we're we are I can say we are entertaining the idea.

SPEAKER_05:

How about that one?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, we're doing more than entertaining the idea of oh yeah, well we're we're making we're we're we're trying to make things, dates, happen happen. So we are gonna do a meet and greet with uh dog and uh Leland. Yep. We spoke to Leland. Yes, he's down. Uh we just gotta get his dad. We gotta get the venue set, and we're gonna start advertising. We got a lot of we got a lot of stuff. We got a lot of dots to connect, but if we do, which is looking like we will, it's just a matter of which date.

SPEAKER_05:

Um we'll tell you where you to buy the ticket so you can get VIP or general admissions.

SPEAKER_04:

So we're yeah, we're gonna do we're gonna do um a live podcast for the VIP only, where we're gonna have special seating for a limited number of VIP people. You can sit in, you get to ask questions of dog and uh Leland, and uh that's gonna be put on YouTube, Spotify, like normal, like the normal stuff.

SPEAKER_05:

And I'm looking at but at some of the notes I've got here. You are also if you oh that's that's the uh yeah, that's never sponsors. Yeah, but if you know if you do want a sponsor, just hit us up. You know, we're looking for sponsors.

SPEAKER_04:

We are looking for sponsors. I got one actually over the weekend kind of unexpectedly. Somebody had a lot of interest in it, and they're uh they're already committing to be a sponsor. So I mean we're still putting it together. It's gonna be in the spring, so we're pretty far off. But um we will make sure it's looking like what's gonna happen. We'll make sure you know where to get tickets.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm gonna put it on the website where you can get tickets um eventually, and um we'll go from there. It's gonna be fun, man. I can't yeah, it's gonna be fun. Rob might might play his guitar with uh with the band.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah. We might do that. Uh yeah, we I mean it's it's a possibility. Um it'd be fun.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we're still putting it together, but it's looking looking strong like we're going to. Awesome. So there's that.

SPEAKER_05:

So stay tuned for more. We'll make sure, uh, we'll make sure you're the first ones to hear about it. So that's for sure. Well, Chad, it's been awesome. You have a wonderful Halloween and And if you see me sneaking around your neighborhood and drenched in blood, just know I'm a zombie looking for candy.

SPEAKER_04:

Right on the big candy bars. Point you in the direction. It ain't our house. That way, that way, that way. You get you get Brussels sprouts. Wouldn't that be terrible?

SPEAKER_05:

That would be horrible. That would be horrible. Oh man. All right. Well, Jill then, I'm Rob. I'm Chad. And we love you. We'll see you later.

SPEAKER_01:

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