Crackheads and Convenience Store Takedowns

What happens when a con artist thinks he can outrun justice? Follow Chad and Rob as they unravel the chase for a fugitive who skipped on a $50,000 bond in Jacksonville, North Carolina.

The hunt begins at an abandoned camper filled with court papers and suspicious merchandise, suggesting theft and drug activities. Despite having his daughter as a co-signer who owns a local convenience store, this fugitive proves elusive as she refuses to cooperate with the bondsmen's search efforts.

The breakthrough comes from an unexpected alliance with another bondsman who still has contact with the target. Through careful planning and strategic surveillance, Chad and Rob orchestrate a perfect sting operation at the daughter's store. When the fugitive arrives, thinking he's there for a work opportunity, the team closes in from all directions.

Even with his gift for gab – the very skill that made him successful at conning people – this thin, weathered man finds himself in handcuffs, unable to talk his way out this time. In an ironic twist, his female companion who chose to stay by his side during the arrest discovers she also has an outstanding warrant, resulting in both being taken into custody together.

This real-life fugitive recovery story highlights the persistence, teamwork, and strategic thinking that goes into bringing skip cases to justice. Years later, the bondsmen still receive notifications about this fugitive through VineLink – a testament to how actions have lasting consequences in the bail system.

Like, rate, and review Off the Hook with Chad and Rob, and visit www.offthehookbail.com for more fascinating stories from the world of bail enforcement.

Transcript

Introduction and Hurricane Talk

Speaker 1 0:04

When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.

Speaker 2 0:13

They go back home to mommy.

Speaker 1 0:15

And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob.

Speaker 2 0:25

Very fine people on both sides.

Speaker 1 0:29

These are real stories, but the names have been changed.

Speaker 2 0:36

What's up, guys? We're back again. We're not going to do the Chad and Rob thing again, because I think everybody knows who the hell we are by now.

Speaker 3 0:43

What's up people?

Speaker 2 0:45

What's up? You know, it's even an intro did you ever do that? So I mean, yeah, good people, we're trying to anyway so, hey, man, you know it's been a while since we actually did a podcast, because we were at the nc.

Speaker 3 0:57

Yeah, we shot four in a row, so we kind of bank, put them in the bank yeah, yeah, we got two more for you.

Speaker 2 1:03

Yeah, uh, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05

So, uh, speaking of that, we were at the ncbaa conference, north carolina bail agent association yep, that's where a whole bunch of us from all over the state get together and talk about how things are going in their neck of the woods, right? So that's that was. That was interesting, that fun.

Speaker 2 1:22

I like that we actually had John Cable on.

Speaker 3 1:28

Oh yeah, that was pretty cool. That was our last episode that we heard.

Speaker 2 1:31

The North Carolina Department of Insurance Deputy Commissioner, the man who's in charge of it.

Speaker 3 1:36

The one that everybody's afraid when they hear that the DOI is coming in town. Doi is looking at you.

Speaker 2 1:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was nice to have his perspective on us and what they think and what's going on there.

Speaker 3 1:53

And for him to say that we're needed was nice.

Speaker 2 1:58

Yeah, I had no idea.

Speaker 3 1:59

Some people have a negative outlook on what we do as long as he's not knocking on our front door we told him to come down and on a um, not a, not a work related friendly basis.

Speaker 2 2:11

Friendly basis, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 2:13

Have some lunch, take it to lunch. You know something like that so all right.

Speaker 2 2:17

Well, on other news.

Speaker 3 2:20

Yeah, so at time this airs, um yeah, so by the time this airs, we'll be one day before a hurricane's out beside us. Yeah, a major hurricane.

Speaker 2 2:31

And so Chad and I both live right on the water pretty much, so I'm interested to see how it's going to turn out for the beaches.

Speaker 3 2:43

Yeah, I've got a a couple neighbors already pulling their boats out of the marina oh yeah, getting getting ready for it. It's supposed to not come get us, but I mean, since when has the weatherman been right, you know?

Speaker 2 2:56

yeah, you know I'm. I'm worried about more, just these wind gusts coming through and knocking power out. You know that's bad 150 miles an hour.

Speaker 3 3:06

I mean, it's a category. I think it's downgraded to a four now, I think.

Speaker 2 3:12

Yeah, that's major bad. Yeah, I ain't trying to like replace anything at the house. No, stay off the coast.

Speaker 3 3:20

Yeah, we're just entering hurricane season.

Speaker 2 3:23

I know that's the bad part. I think there's another one behind it.

Speaker 3 3:26

I'm sure you know, I don't know the government could be working on how to fix these things. I mean, apparently they can cloud seed, they can make storms happen, rain happen. Yeah see, I don't know much about that.

Speaker 2 3:39

I know we've talked about it.

Speaker 3 3:42

There's so much to it's like no, it's a thing, it's a real thing yeah cloud seating's real. They've been doing it for a long time. But what else are they doing? I mean, how you know these storms? If you can do that, can you control? You're controlling the weather here. That's playing god, almost. Yeah.

Speaker 2 3:59

Well, do that with genetics, do it with weather well, I mean, you know, people are chopping the wieners off. I'm a man, I'm a woman that actually works into our story somehow.

Speaker 3 4:18

We'll tell you later.

Speaker 2 4:20

I'm a man.

Speaker 3 4:20

I'm a woman.

Speaker 2 4:22

I'm a man Call me ma'am.

Speaker 3 4:27

Everybody just chill out with this. A man, I'm a woman, I'm a man, call me ma'am.

Speaker 2 4:29

Everybody just chill out with this man, seriously, oh God, man, what the hell is wrong with folks? Stop the world. I want to get off it's crazy, anyway, okay.

Speaker 3 4:44

Let's get off that Enough of that we got. We got weather issues and that now we got you go on to the trump was in the news um talking about um bail, which is something, yes, near and dear to us but let me ask you, chad.

Trump and Cashless Bail Discussion

Speaker 2 4:58

Yeah, all right. So this is my main question. When um and it all started when he said cashless bail, I don't like the word cashless bail. It's not really what it is.

Speaker 3 5:10

That was a negative connotation used to make what we do negative. I mean because it's cash. They tie the word cash to it. It's secured or unsecured Right Secured. You need a bondsman Un's secured or unsecured, Right Secured.

Speaker 2 5:25

You need a bondsman. Unsecured, you just sign yourself out.

Speaker 3 5:27

Well secured means you have to satisfy the bond with cash or bondsman Right Not necessarily us, but you can pay the bond in full yourself.

Speaker 2 5:35

So my question Chad is on a federal level. If he tries to end cashless bail, cashless, yeah. If he tries to end cashless bail on a federal level, how's that going to work? Because it is regulated by each state. Each state regulates their own. You know the bail industry Because we know Illinois doesn't have bail Right, so Kentucky doesn't have bail. Well, they have bail, but it's through the state.

Speaker 3 6:02

Yeah, a different form. Kentucky's a weird one from what I remember when we supposedly went around that state. So they will arrest you in Kentucky and then they say you can bond out through them.

Speaker 2 6:19

Yeah you have to pay the state though.

Speaker 3 6:20

You have to pay them, so that's like okay yes, double dipping. It's like they have vested interest, right? So like I'll make your bond, you know, normally it would be $1,000. Well, we'll make it $10,000.

Speaker 2 6:33

So you know we'll add a zero to that equation, so the state can make a little bit of money.

Speaker 3 6:38

Yeah, you know how do you keep that fair, you, you know. Yeah, that's kind of shady in my opinion so wisconsin doesn't have a bail oregon parts of carol uh. California, new mexico. Uh yeah, which we know about new mexico?

Speaker 3 6:53

new jersey yeah, like it's, it's bad there's bits and pieces in each states and it's a different degrees and you can't really look, and you really can't look at the crime statistics because they've kind of rigged them too. The major states did not have to report certain crimes in the last census that was taken, Therefore you got not accurate results.

Speaker 2 7:18

I believe that most people say, okay, it doesn't work, because look at New York, look at New Jersey, look at California, look at all these places that don't have it, and look what's being happened Just three offhand New York, chicago and LA. Yeah, just a major city and it's not working. So now they're like oh okay, well, we're not. Liberals will never admit that they're wrong.

Speaker 2 7:41

Well, I never admit no, no, they want them, and that's we're used to, that right yeah, we're used to it, but you know, we don't even like it, don't even bother us no more, because they act like a bunch of idiots anyway.

Speaker 3 7:55

So well, the uh, the crime thing that I saw that there was protests going on right and like they left the protest and like two of them got mugged that that happened last week. Yeah, it was some kind of protest and they got mugged leaving the protest and like two of them got mugged that that happened last week. Yeah, it was some kind of protest and they got mugged leaving the protest about, um, stopping crime or something, you know, it was something stupid well, did they get their crayons and their column book and have their safe space?

Speaker 2 8:19

afterwards they they said oh, now I'm mentally messed up. Now I need to go chop off my wiener, probably.

Speaker 3 8:30

That always helps. That always helps Anyhow.

Speaker 1 8:34

Anyhow.

The Crackhead Fugitive Story Begins

Speaker 3 8:36

Let's get off of that and get into our story.

Speaker 2 8:40

Yeah, is it story time? It is. Is it story time? We got a new intro. Yeah, and there's a reason. There's a reason we got a new intro, yeah. And there's a reason. There's a reason We'll let you know here in a sec, ready, yeah, got to stop it. So the reason why we played that because I finally talked this man into it. Well, I brought it up. Yeah, he brought it up, and I was like because I finally talked this man into it.

Speaker 3 9:07

Well, I brought it up.

Speaker 2 9:07

Yeah, he brought it up and I was like, and I just kind of like pushed him.

Speaker 3 9:11

So I'm a big Pantera fan. I went to Pantera with Metallica. You know Metallica was the main line. But now Pantera is coming back to our area a couple hours up Raleigh and I've been thinking about going and I'm so proud that my son likes decent music and we go to the gym together and he plays mainly metallica, pantera yeah, all the good stuff it's stuff that makes you want to work out hard and like I'm so proud because this only thing he really does is I'm working out, but's very vigilant about it which I'm happy about.

Speaker 3 9:51

I can't get him to focus on any other sport, but to me working out is better. But anyway I haven't told him yet, but I just went online with Rob's.

Speaker 2 10:04

Yeah, I come in this morning. I come in this morning I come in this morning yeah and chad was like, hey, bro, he's been talking about this, this, this, this concert coming up on all right in september, and I, we're sitting here, he goes. Hey man, he goes. I really want to go. I was like, I looked at, I was like, man, you get to meet and greet the whole nine bro.

Speaker 2 10:22

I'm telling you, dude, it's a, it's a bucket list item and I was like all right, let me ask this for about chad. I said is this like your top bucket list, one of your top bucket list? And he said yes. I said then do it. I said you only live once. You do it and guess where he's going? Yeah, meet and greet wood pantera. Good job, I can't.

Speaker 3 10:41

I'm happy for you backstage the whole nine the whole nine you get the best seats in the house. So I get to meet them and I say, look, you know I work out, listen to your music almost every day for so many years. And now my son likes your music and you know these guys are aging now and getting up there but a new generation of people that dig your music.

Speaker 2 11:04

And you get to meet Zach Wild.

Speaker 3 11:07

Zach, generation of people that dig your music, and you get to meet zach wilde. Zach wilde, yes. Are you gonna give him a t-shirt?

Speaker 2 11:10

yeah, I think I'm gonna take a couple of my black and, uh, purple octopus guys, I'm telling you, if you ain't got your shirts or hats, you need to get them. This combination right here, boom, boom, boom. I'm telling you it's, it's bad. I'm telling I get so many compliments when I wear mine yeah, we, we, we didn't coordinate this today.

Speaker 3 11:26

No, we did not, it just happened to fall this way because I wore this shirt. I had to wear this because I thought it paired well and he was the first one to get it, and I was like man that works good.

Speaker 2 11:35

It's nice I played the band played this past Saturday night. Did you get any compliments on the?

Speaker 3 11:42

wardrobe man I got so many compliments they're like man.

Speaker 2 11:44

I like that shirt. They're like, because they were like, they looked at it and they were kind of confused because it was like they saw off the hook. They saw Softie Southern gear and they're like hold on your band's, what's the name of your band? I said Softie Southern Band and they're like, oh, I see.

Speaker 3 11:59

I said, yeah, it's my business partner, his shirt, stuff, and that's where I got the idea from yeah, nobody wants the bellbond shirt, but I like the off the hook, you know right because I've had it so long and we're at the coast and you know the whole nine, yeah, so I wanted to keep that portion of it, man, I got my hog tide. I got my rooster tail, I've got I got the patriot tuna.

Speaker 2 12:18

I've got the ogs damon. I got the octopus. I got the octopus. I got the black, the gray, the camo, Anyway go check out the website.

Speaker 3 12:29

It's offthehookgearshop, not a shop, it's a shop. Anyway, all right.

Speaker 2 12:37

So on to a little story here, and I don't know what we're going to call this retard. Now, rob, oh yeah, did I offend somebody? All right, come see me, I'll buy you some crayons.

Speaker 3 12:51

We'll give you a safe space for a little while and some crayons.

Speaker 2 12:54

Whatever, he's a tard.

Speaker 3 12:57

This guy is a. He was a bad guy. He was taking, he was conning people. He's a con artist. Yeah, I'm going in people. He's a con artist. Yeah, I'm gonna see how tall, because he's not big at all. Let's see if he's got. He was thin and tall. I remember the guy yeah, but he was.

Speaker 2 13:08

He was such a like he's from up north. Yeah, he came down from new jersey years ago.

Speaker 3 13:13

He was such a talker yeah, yeah, he's, he's a, he's a talker. He could, I could definitely see him. Yeah, con some, I mean he older person.

Speaker 2 13:20

He conned us, but he didn't make it all the way, but so much all right, so this was like a 50 000 out of jacksonville.

Investigating the Camper

Speaker 3 13:31

Yeah onslow county. So yeah, jacksonville, here in this area, uh, is where the big marine base is, so not a whole lot in jacksonville. Now you know you got pawn shops, tattoo parlors and strip clubs. That's pretty much. Jacksonville. And that's where all the Marines are at, so you've got to give them the necessities, right? Anyway, that's where this guy came from, that area.

Speaker 2 14:00

The thing about it is his daughter. They co-signed the bond.

Speaker 3 14:04

Yeah, so we thought it was decent. I mean the co -signed the bond yeah, so we thought it was decent. I mean the co-signer was good. She owns a little like a corner grocery store, like in between where we live. We live in we're about what 45 minutes from Jacksonville, yeah, so it's like a little area in between there.

Speaker 2 14:21

Really close to our house Not far.

Speaker 3 14:22

Yeah, not that far. But I remember we first started looking for this guy and she wasn't wanting to help. She would not return our calls, nothing.

Speaker 2 14:34

Now. I talked to her one time.

Speaker 3 14:36

Did you?

Speaker 2 14:37

And she was like oh, I ain't seen him. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 14:40

I'm like well, so what do you do? Do you believe her?

Speaker 2 14:43

Yeah, no, I didn't believe her. So what do you do? Do you believe her? Yeah, no, I.

Speaker 3 14:45

I didn't believe her, I didn't believe it, but what are you going to do about it? Right, right.

Speaker 2 14:50

So what do we do? All right, we get the forfeiture in. We started looking for this card and I go. I had to go to Jacksonville for something. Uh, chad wasn't with me and I was, like you know, while I'm up here, I'm going to go by and take a look at this address Because you know it's convenient While I was up there. Go ahead and take a look, right Right, go by there. I see it's a camper.

Speaker 3 15:15

It's a bunch of locks. Not a trailer, but a camper.

Speaker 2 15:16

It's a camper, so I'm looking and I don't see nothing home, there's no, there's nothing there. So I talked to some of the neighbors and one neighbor she was, so she was so helpful. Finally, like it took me a minute because I went to a couple different neighbors houses. They're like, yeah, we see him, but we don't know him that well. He's not here much. They come in and out at night. It's kind of weird. Oh this guy's.

Speaker 3 15:44

What age did you put on this guy? He's up there, he looks 67.

Speaker 2 15:48

He looks 65. He's probably like 57 in his 50s. Yeah, yeah, road hard road, hard put up with it.

Speaker 3 15:56

Yeah, yeah, just paint a picture.

Speaker 2 15:58

Yeah, he's a thief and he's a drug user, right, all right. So you know his brain's about halfway gone, anyway, all right, well, we're, I'm at this trailer, this trailer park, campsite, whatever. They are talking to the neighbor and she's like, yeah, people drop him off all the time. You know, here at the house, I don't know if he's there or not, because he doesn't, they don't drive anything. I said, okay, well, here at the house, I don't know if he's there or not, because he does, they don't drive anything. I said, okay, well, I need to go in and just hamper and that's, that's the address on file.

Speaker 3 16:33

So in our state, if that's the first party house, we have every right to go into the house. We can kick the door open, whatever yeah.

Speaker 2 16:41

So I get up with the guy who owns the property and I call Eric. I'm like, hey, Eric.

Speaker 3 16:53

So Eric is another agent that we have in Jacksonville that he's ex military and he's helping us with um I think did he write this bond.

Speaker 2 17:00

Who wrote it?

Speaker 3 17:00

You did Okay, but anyway, eric helps out, we all kind of help each other get these done, yeah, so so, eric, come out there.

Speaker 2 17:09

Uh, when I got through talking to the, the owner of the property, I told him what we're about to do go in. He said cool, no problem, he goes, he owes me money. I'm gonna kick him off anyway. I told him he had to get off and get his place off. He hasn't't done it yet, so let me know what you find in there. I said okay, cool. So we go into the trailer, clear it out it's full of junk pretty much and we find all of his court papers, his probation papers, the whole nine. All of it's in there.

Speaker 3 17:41

So he's aware of what he had to do Very aware of it Okay.

Speaker 2 17:46

And of course, while we're in there, we're looking for certain things that kind of give us clues of where they might be. Okay, nothing. We see a bunch of like you know how you get the phone chargers and stuff that you buy from the grocery stores. There's like a bunch of phone accessories in boxes in there. I'm like what's going on here? It looks like they're stealing stuff and like selling them dirt cheap to get whatever they, you know, get their drugs.

Speaker 2 18:13

Right, We've seen this scenario which makes about sense and I so I'll leave the neighbors. I give them all my number. Uh, let the owner know my you know, if you see him, and kind of report back to Chad what was going on and we start digging in more. Come to find out after Chad does some digging and Eric, that he's on bond with another bondsman up there in Jacksonville, locally that he hasn't missed on yet.

Speaker 3 18:48

So this is significant because he might have information we don't have Right. He might be able to get in contact with a have information we don't have Right. He might, he might, you know, being able to get in contact with the guy. When we can't, so we can't, we look him up, we're able to look through the courts, you know, pull the paperwork in the in the clerk of court, find the bondsman, bonding company, and then we can reach out to him.

Speaker 2 19:12

And his bondsman is new.

Setting Up the Convenience Store Sting

Speaker 3 19:14

Yeah, the bondsman bonding company, and then we can reach out to him. And his bondsman is new. Yeah, he's new. He doesn't exactly know what he's facing, doesn't, because he hasn't received a forfeiture in the mail there's. It's not real to him yet, right? So we reach out to him, we explain everything like, yeah, your bond hasn't forfeited yet, ours is. But if we have an issue here, you're gonna have an issue, right? So it's in your best interest to help us out to help us to help you to help us.

Speaker 2 19:37

So he's all about it. Yeah, so he's all about it.

Speaker 3 19:40

So yeah, he was. He was a cool guy.

Speaker 2 19:42

And we um, so we get up, we, we get a plan together for day to get that organized. He was still good with the guy, though, yeah he was still good with him yeah. Guy answered the phone for him the whole night.

Speaker 3 19:59

Yeah, which is crazy. I guess he knew that he was new. To brush us off, right.

Speaker 2 20:06

And I think what we had the bondsman to do was say, hey, we got some, there's some money involved in doing some work, and he was all about it and that's why he, you know, pepped up, you know, because he's the defendant, the defendant, yeah. So we were like all right, so this is what we need to do, we need to set something up. So we knew that this guy's daughter owned this little convenience store, grocery store type place.

Speaker 3 20:34

It's a good. It's a good. It's a good location for us to watch yep, to set up a sting yep so to speak.

Speaker 2 20:41

We sat across the street.

Speaker 3 20:43

Yeah, for a while, yeah, we could sit across the street. There was, it's like a four lane highway 17. Yeah well, people don't know this you got to paint the picture dude, uh, four lane highway. Then you got the little store on the corner. Then across the four lanes is another little strip mall thing.

Speaker 2 21:02

So we're sitting over there, binoculars watching, uh, waiting for our car to arrive and they're taking forever because he's on his, he's on druggy time, yeah, so yeah druggy time.

Speaker 3 21:14

He's aren't exactly punctual. No, they're not they're not on time, I mean, and this guy can't make it to court so I guess we could have said there was a bag of drugs for him and he would have hurried up he may have he may have. He may have. There's a rock waiting for you in the paper bag at the store.

Speaker 2 21:30

We gotta go, I'm on the way so. So we sit there and waited and finally, I think, chad, we moved to the parking lot of this little store because there were so many cars there that we that we could.

Speaker 3 21:45

So we went. Our windows are tinted and, like he's not gonna, he probably wouldn't even recognize us.

Speaker 2 21:50

No, he wouldn't even recognize us. No, he wouldn't recognize us. So we're sitting there, we're sitting there, we're waiting, and we're waiting, and we're waiting. And this guy doesn't know what Chad or I look like because he never met us face to face, but his daughter does, who owns the store. But I think I went into the store to see how the layout of the store was.

Speaker 3 22:15

Yeah, so we know kind of what we're walking into.

Speaker 2 22:19

And she wasn't working. It was some young kid.

Speaker 3 22:20

So yeah, then you're not recognized and it's all good Right.

Speaker 2 22:23

So we're going to get like a water and whatever. Come back out. I'm sitting down and they're on the way. The bondsman's like alright, he's on the way, he's following me right now. So they both pull up and when they pull up we see our guy Eric's, on the other side of the store, because we didn't know which side he was going to get on. Yeah, the other building, the other building, yeah.

Speaker 3 22:48

So we have to time it right to go in to kind of basically corner him in this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:55

And we wanted to make sure that.

Speaker 3 22:56

We didn't know about back doors and all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 22:58

Yeah.

Speaker 3 22:59

Because he's worked there. He did work inside the store. Yeah, like construction.

Speaker 2 23:03

Because they've added on to that place, if you haven't seen it. So they come pulling up and they pull up literally a couple cars away from us and we see him get out and go in. Now, once he goes in, we're on the phone with, uh, eric too, and we're like all right, eric, come on and I jump out and I run in you're right behind me, eric's right behind me and I go in and here's here's the thing that kind of shocked me, because I didn't see him in the general store area. I'm like what the hell did he do? Well, kind of find out. There. I heard him, and there was like a little room go through a little doorway and there's a room where they're doing all the construction work.

Speaker 3 23:44

Yeah, like a curtain to keep the dust down or something like that.

Speaker 2 23:46

Yeah, and so when I walked through there, I saw him standing there with the bondsman. They're sitting there talking and I go, mr, mr, uh, mr crackhead we didn't give him a name, that's right yeah, then mr crackhead, he looks, he goes. Yeah, I was like I said put your hands behind your bags. What for? I said do it now. You know, I'm like I'll tell you in a second.

Speaker 2 24:11

This is bullshit and he starts and he starts to like to try to start a buck, but like a little bit, but we you know he's a little guy, almost well he wasn't short.

Speaker 3 24:21

He was thin and kind of tall, if I remember you still break him like a well, yeah, yeah I mean I mean a crackhead, will act like, like, like they're Superman.

Speaker 2 24:31

Yeah, or to wash your car for $5. Knew a good job at it, so I. So we're getting him in handcuffs and we go outside and we're sitting there and we call the probation cause they knew what was going on.

Speaker 3 24:47

So, yeah, um, his probation couldn't find him. Remember that in Jacksonville they couldn't find this guy and they were like we call him, they're like we want him, we'll come and get him.

Speaker 3 24:57

And they sent, they sent um he's too little guy oh, okay whatever it was back up before you say guy, like I said earlier, that's going to come into play right about now. Oh yeah, so we wait and we wait. We're like on the tailgate of a truck and we got him and actually his wife we don't have her in handcuffs, but she has a warrant she doesn't know about and we're like we tell them move the phone. We got both of them here and uh, they're and she's sitting there freely, she can go if she wanted to. Yeah and uh, but our target he's, he's in handcuffs and he's just sitting there and they're just talking. And uh, and he now, mind you, he's trying to talk his way out.

Speaker 2 25:32

oh yeah, he's just sitting there and they're just talking and he now, mind you, he's trying to talk his way out. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 25:36

He's trying to talk his way out. That's his key is his mouth.

Speaker 2 25:40

Right.

The Arrest and Probation Pickup

Speaker 3 25:41

His gift of gab, so to speak. And we wait and finally this car patrol car pulls up and we see one portly little person get out and another, another one that looks a little off from a distance, and they come closer.

Speaker 2 26:02

So I think it was I think it was actually a chick that wanted to be the dude. I think that's what it was. Yeah, you see where we're going with this.

Speaker 3 26:10

Yeah, it's, it was it had like a little facial hair, but it looked like somebody cut some pubic hair off and glued it on, you know, in various spots. Yeah, a little weird, like in, like you're, like not quite right here. I guess you were, they were, they were, they were a transformer yeah, but here's the thing.

Speaker 2 26:34

So you know we're still respectful, we were, I mean.

Speaker 3 26:39

Evidently it's hard to get help in Jacksonville. I'm like sir ma'am, what do we call you? I don't know. I don't want to be disrespectful here, but you, he, him, her, it, you know, cover all the bases.

Speaker 2 26:52

Them they.

Speaker 1 26:53

Them it you know, cover all the bases, them they, them they.

Speaker 2 26:58

I don't know Chickwood winners, I don't know, I'm confused. Anyway, they take them, so they take both of them, I don't care what it was that came and got him. You know what I'm saying Like cool, You're damn right.

Speaker 3 27:11

So they look good. They get to bring it back, Somebody they couldn't find and we felt better because we get off the bond.

Speaker 2 27:18

Did you get other deals?

Speaker 3 27:19

I still get notifications about this guy. So Vinelink Vinelink is a service that we use. Anybody can use this. Vinelink was basically a real brief summary of Vinelink. I read years ago that it was two brothers. They had a sister. The sister witnessed a murder and she testified in court against this guy. The guy went to jail. They did not get any kind of notification of the guy being released from prison. Guy got out of prison, went and killed the lady who testified against him. So the two brothers started this website called VineLink. Who testified against him? So the two brothers started this website called VineLink and what it does is it notifies you of any person that you enter into it, as to their status of being in a prison, jail, any movement, anything like that. So continue to get notifications on this guy years later.

Speaker 2 28:14

I think he's called since then wanting us to bond them out again.

Speaker 3 28:17

He did in the beginning. Yeah, and you're like no not happening, dude. And anyway, yeah, so, um, that was the story of this guy and then his. Oh yeah, by the way, his wife did get served on her warrant, so the two of them got to go take a ride together. So we kept them together, see, Wasn't that nice.

Speaker 2 28:41

They get to lovey-dovey each other before they go.

Speaker 3 28:43

We didn't know that. I mean, we knew that she had another warrant. We heard, but she didn't have to stick around.

Speaker 2 28:49

It wasn't like I didn't care.

Speaker 3 28:51

She can do whatever she wanted to do. They wanted to be together, and together they are Together they are Now.

Speaker 2 28:58

I don't know what happened. They had a nice camper, but I mean it was trashed. Yeah, it was a nice camper, it was just trash. I think it was like a fifth wheel, it was nice.

Speaker 3 29:07

Well, maybe one day they'll get to see it again.

Speaker 1 29:14

Ah, who knows?

Case Conclusion and Wrap-up

Speaker 2 29:14

I think he's in prison now. He's got to be All them charges overhead. Anyway, man, time's up already.

Speaker 3 29:21

Yep, that was quick. That's our story on the crackhead guy that we're going to call him Crackhead.

Speaker 2 29:27

Just Mr Crackhead, because that's what he was.

Speaker 3 29:30

Don't do crack. Yeah, crack is whack, gives you bad decisions. Bad teeth Smells like burnt styrofoam yeah. I think I've smelt it. Yeah, that's a good summary of what it smells like.

Speaker 2 29:44

It's horrible smelling. I kicked in a door one time in Atlanta, georgia and it hit me in the face and I started gagging. It was that bad, yeah, like it was ugh. Never wanted to hear it smell that again.

Speaker 3 29:58

Georgia. Yeah, we went in a meth house in Georgia, ugh yeah.

Speaker 2 30:03

Man, that's one you got to tell, that's one you got to write up on the board that was in the mountains of Georgia. Yeah, it's horrible, anyway, it's horrible, anyway, anyway. So, hey guys, that's another great episode of off the hook bail bonds podcast. If you like what you hear, you'll listen to the end as the outro.

Speaker 3 30:21

It says all that, rob you don't have to say it.

Speaker 2 30:23

Yeah, it says all that just listen to the outro it doesn't, and you'll get what he was going to say, he said many times YouTube. Anyway, it's on all the stuff. Take a look, subscribe, help, support us. Yeah, come check it out.

Speaker 3 30:37

I'm Rob, I'm Chad, and don't be a ho and share the show. Hey, sorry, I had to tell him You've been listening to.

Speaker 1 30:44

Off the Hook with Chad and Rob. We hope you've enjoyed the show. Make sure to like, rate and review, and be sure to follow us for notifications for another exciting episode. But in the meantime, you can go to our website at wwwoffthehookbillcom to see more. So until next time, stay out of trouble, or it'll be you that needs to get off the hook. See you soon.