Off The Hook
We are a group of private investigators, bounty hunters / fugitive recovery agents, and bail bondsmen that have been in this line of work for over twenty five years and have many stories to tell. We have traveled all over the country catching fugitives and bringing them back to have their day in court. With our years of experience we are trying to educate the public about bail and why it is a needed part of our judicial system.
Off The Hook
Fugitive Hunting in the Homeless Camps
A cold lead becomes a hot pursuit as professional bounty hunters Chad and Rob take us deep into the world of fugitive recovery. When Ohio bail agent Dana reaches out about a $50,000 bond jumper who's fled to North Carolina, the chase is on.
The trail begins with family connections in Greensboro - distraught relatives, an ex-husband eager to help, and a girlfriend caught between loyalty and frustration. What follows is a masterclass in fugitive tracking as our hosts combine old-school footwork with modern technology, ultimately leading them to a makeshift homeless encampment hidden behind a suburban Target store.
This episode pulls back the curtain on the real work of professional bail recovery agents. You'll hear how seemingly small details become crucial turning points in the investigation, from the description of a vehicle to the unexpected gift of GPS tracking data. The actual apprehension takes you through briar patches and dangerous terrain as Chad and Rob coordinate a two-man tactical approach that results in a successful capture despite challenging conditions.
Beyond the excitement of the chase, this episode offers thoughtful commentary on the relationship between bail recovery agents and local law enforcement, the purpose of the bail system, and misconceptions about the industry. The hosts' candid discussion about working with the Greensboro Police Department highlights the professional partnerships that make the criminal justice system function effectively.
Whether you're fascinated by true crime, interested in criminal justice, or simply enjoy real-life adventure stories, this raw account of cross-state fugitive recovery delivers both entertainment and insight into a profession few truly understand.
Visit our website at www.offthehookbail.com to learn more, and be sure to follow, rate and review to stay updated on future episodes!
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob Very fine people on both sides. These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
Speaker 2:What's up, guys Rob here.
Speaker 3:And I'm Chad, what's up?
Speaker 2:He was stuffing his face with some coffee.
Speaker 3:That'll happen from time to time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I usually get my coffee fix early in the morning. Me too. I keep it going though.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can't man, I'll be jittery over here.
Speaker 2:I'll be climbing up the walls in the office here. I love it. So, Chad, did you see what happened in Florida so far with the Alcatraz? I?
Speaker 3:don't know a lot about this topic, man, it sounds intriguing, yeah, I watched some news articles.
Speaker 2:Of course, fox News goes out there and talks to the governor Right and he's explaining how things are going to be working down there. Working down there so, uh, it's a pretty much a facility where the criminal illegals get processed and get deported out. So I mean it's a great idea. The sentence has got a great thing. I think it's great he's got. He's in there showing all right, we have facilities, you know, we have showers, we have cafeteria I did see a clip of that.
Speaker 3:Um, the morning guy went down there talking to sanis and he they had all these big air conditioner units, yep, um, so I mean it's very humane yeah, yeah, but if you tried to escape, oh yeah, you're a dumbass for trying to escape this place you got 50 miles, 50 miles to the nearest of just gator, infested swampland snake infested.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, but you know somebody will do it. We need to make a bet, dad. How long, how, how?
Speaker 3:long before it happens. Somebody will try it, yeah oh man, so uh.
Speaker 2:With that being said, I'm hoping you know, if this works out, if some other states will follow in behind it. Do you think?
Speaker 3:right, I mean you got that that one sheriff that's uh out in arizona tent city, you know kind of that same didn't, wasn't there a sheriff here in north carolina.
Speaker 2:It's been a long time lexington.
Speaker 3:He has a pink. It's a pink um jail. Everything's pink inside of it. Yeah, so that's a mental strategy. That um he's doing is it makes you um docile um it's.
Speaker 2:It's a visual thing are you still doing it today?
Speaker 3:I think he still is, yeah.
Speaker 2:Huh, that'd be interesting to look up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everybody there's. All kinds of colors are associated with different, different things. You know like grocery stores do green and yellow, they make you hungry to look at them.
Speaker 2:And I heard something about another thing about grocery stores. Yeah, they put all the colorful stuff like kid level.
Speaker 3:Right, appealing to kids. Yeah, oh yeah, all of it's. All of it's a strategy. Yeah, everything is totally thought out.
Speaker 2:Hope RFK gets in there and and that that's one thing.
Speaker 3:So I'm I'm going, you know, on vacation um next week. So that's one thing we wanted to do when we go to blee city is I want to go to a grocery store. Sounds weird, but you know I want to. I want to go and look and see, because you know we have so many varieties of things to go and choose from right. I want to go in a place that not like that. You know, just look, right, like you said, how they're arranged for kids to look. You know it's all strategically laid out, but I want to go to place it. All they do is put food on shelves right and just see how, how they're. I like more the fresh markets.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah I do too yeah, I'm a big fan of fresh market. That's where I get all my coffee and you know A little pricey there, but it's good quality stuff for the most part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that one here in town is pretty cool, bigger's.
Speaker 3:You're talking about a little market. I was talking about Fresh Market, the grocery store.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, okay, Fresh Market.
Speaker 3:No, you're talking about just market stands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. A little farmer's market yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that place has grown, that you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, anyway, um yeah, I want to go. I want to go check out our friend, uh, John. Um, what's his name? Mullis, Mullins, Mullins, yeah.
Speaker 2:He's got a. I stopped by.
Speaker 3:John, as a matter of fact Saturday, but you weren't open yet. I was finishing up at the jail. I rode by and, yeah, I had to go out there Saturday. It was unsecured, get out of free jail. It was that one from Denver that came down unsecured so while I was there. I rode by John's place and it was a little early. He hadn't opened until 10. I was. I was there about nine 30. I was like, yeah, I'm going to wait, right, anyway well, the Amchar.
Speaker 2:Did you get next door to Amchar?
Speaker 3:That place, man that's the place I got to too expensive to to just be dropping in and dropping, you know, money on a gun. Yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2:In a heartbeat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, it's like you know, women get all those purses. Man Us dudes. We get guns, At least here in the South. Yeah, we get guns.
Speaker 2:Man, all right. So of thing, I was at the mall on yesterday, yeah, at the mall yesterday and we had to go. I bought my girlfriend a watch for her birthday and she had to go get sized. So while she was doing that I was kind of like hanging out right there outside the store waiting she comes out. Hey, I need to go get something else. I'm like, all right, cool, I'll right here. And I saw this parent with her child. You could tell it was like maybe 16 to 18 child, maybe it was a girl. I'm going to call it a girl because it confuses the hell out of me.
Speaker 3:Oh, is this a transitioning person? I?
Speaker 2:think it was transitioning.
Speaker 3:It had like patches of hair right here and here and like some up on its lip and had like the figure of a woman why is this a thing all of a sudden, when it wasn't years ago like I'm not talking, like you know, a long time ago, but five, six years ago this wasn't even a thing. I'm confused. And now, if you can go like that easily and go and you see it from time to time more frequently and like it's, I think people like are such sheep that they follow things that they see on TV to this extreme that you would let your 16 year old child change their sex with.
Speaker 2:Hormone therapy. Hormone therapy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and not really, not really care to put up a fight to say, hey, maybe you need to be mentally evaluated.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't smoke cigarettes until you're 21. Now, you can't vote until you're 18. You can't go into the military until you're 18. You can't drive until you're 16.
Speaker 3:But here's some medication to change your sex.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, come on, like talk to your kids. Hey look, you know it might be cool, but when you get older you you're going to thank me later for saying, hey, no, let's not do it, because you know you might want to have kids one day, right, and it could mess the whole body up. I don't kids, man, just leave the kids alone. If you want to dress up in a dress and go flaunt around, I don't care. I don't care if you want to call yourself autosexual, pansexual and that's another thing.
Speaker 3:I saw what the hell is an autosexual Well you looked up the definition of that I did Well. I'm on pansexual now it's another term for a narcissist.
Speaker 2:Like you're in love with yourself.
Speaker 3:These people are coming up with these terms. It already exists. You're a narcissist, an autosexualist. You mean you like yourself or something you love yourself. Is that what it was?
Speaker 2:I guess. Yeah, you're a little, I'm looking at pansexual now, oh, pansexual it's an attraction of people to any gender, or two people regardless, ain't that?
Speaker 3:bi-sexual? You're bi. Yeah, there's already a term for this stuff. People, y'all are making up words, maybe they're not happy with the words?
Speaker 2:I guess not. I'm confused.
Speaker 3:Well, there's a particular political side that does a lot of that. I'm not going to name any names.
Speaker 2:Speaking of, what about this retard up in New York?
Speaker 3:Oh, a Muslim guy. Yeah, Don't y'all know what happened back in. What was it 2001? Yeah, 9-11? It's called 9-11.
Speaker 2:Like this dude is crazy man.
Speaker 3:Now y'all got a guy you want to make the mayor.
Speaker 2:He wants to freeze rent, which that's going to seem appealing to people who live there because they don't want to pay rent. Then he wants to take over the grocery stores and have like a government funded grocery stores.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's kind of what I was going back to talking about at the beginning, and they're going to do away with the cops.
Speaker 2:They're going to send social workers in. Yeah, in their place. How is that going to work out? Yeah, you know, social workers don't carry guns.
Speaker 3:You know it's one of the most dangerous things people go into are domestic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're going to send a social worker in there.
Speaker 3:This is where cops actually get shot. Yeah, it's a lot of these.
Speaker 2:Sir, are you feeling okay today? Yeah, if you don't get your head on my wife.
Speaker 3:He's at a level up here. When you arrive about to kill somebody and you want to walk in with your clipboard and have a chat, that's a good way to get off, you know here.
Speaker 2:Let me write this down for you here. If we can do this, you'll be just fine. 10 minutes later she he done killed a woman. Good luck with that, yeah, good. I can see lawsuits galore. I can see people moving out. I can see that city going downhill real fast.
Speaker 3:Been on the slope already. I know it's horrible Really going to speed it up, huh.
Speaker 2:New Yorkers, y'all need to think about that really honestly.
Speaker 3:I saw a meme after this news and this guy got elected to the Democrat selection and it was a meme. Realtors in the South, you know Like they're getting ready for all these people that are coming down.
Speaker 2:They are man, and that's another thing I'm confused about. Like all right, so freezing rent If you're a landlord, what do you do? You just not going to get your money?
Speaker 3:Freezing it, as in like people don't have to pay rent. Oh yeah, that sounds like a great idea, yeah.
Speaker 2:So the people who own the buildings are going to go bankrupt, lose the buildings and they're going to step in and take it over.
Speaker 3:So communist right there goes back, goes back to the city, yeah. Yeah, that was like a really good plan he's got going on.
Speaker 2:I'm glad I don't live up there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know a lot of people have moved down here from there, man, my neighborhood's full of people from different areas.
Speaker 3:Transplants. Yeah, and I love my New York neighbors. I do. I got some I really am good friends with, I was friends with, but, um, I was at the pool weekend and there's this one new yorker, really loud. That's not uncommon for new yorkers, but this guy's exceptionally loud and he's talking with his other northern uh cohorts that live in the neighborhood and he's all he did is complain about things in the south that they don't have here, that they had when they were up North. And that's I just. And he's so loud I can't help but to hear him. I didn't, you know, I wasn't eavesdropping and he was just, he's just that loud.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And I was just like man, I don't want to hear this shit. You moved here because you didn't like something up there and you know you're going to just complain. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Man, like you know, I don't like it when they come and they just openly complain about things.
Speaker 2:Well, I know what I don't like. They don't have really good cannolis down here. I like cannolis.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, well, the food issue. Yeah, I agree with them. I like cannolis. Oh yeah, well, the food issue. Yeah, I agree with them. I love some of that northern, especially those breakfast sandwiches made on hard rolls. But we actually have a neighbor that or a little restaurant that makes them.
Speaker 2:Well, our advice to you if you don't like it down here, go back.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, or make one here, yeah, make it here Without your big New York checkbook and make a store that has whatever it is you're complaining about You're saving a lot of money on taxes, housing a lot of it. I get the appeal. You know I totally do the same thing too, right, um, but anyway all right.
Speaker 2:So, chad, enough of New York. It's got some cool spots, man, it does. So our story, this, this episode. So this is a story that me and Matt did, and Before I get this story started, we got going to our music, and what better way to do it Than what you have on right now oh yes, phil.
Speaker 3:Phil's birthday today.
Speaker 2:Singer for pantero that's enough, gotta love it. That is like the best's iconic. It's the best intro music for like to start off a song that riff I can put it to anything A wedding. Yeah.
Speaker 3:High school Graduation it goes good with anything.
Speaker 2:Yes, it does Love Pantera, yes, it does love pentera. So this uh, this story uh is for a woman out of ohio by name of dana ac. You met her. Um, she reached out to me. It's been years ago, uh, she reached out to me, said, hey, I got a 50 000 that's on the run down there and we don't know where we're at she goes. But I've got some information. So I was like all right, cool, better than a forfeiture in a picture.
Speaker 3:Right, right or used to get them.
Speaker 2:So I get the file, we're looking at it and it's one of them files where you can only do so much online. You have to actually go put some feet on the ground, yeah, yeah, and go do some talking, yep. So one day me and Matt decided, you know, we got to go up there. We take off that morning.
Speaker 3:Where is there? Greensboro, greensboro. So those of you listening, greensboro is about Middle of the state, three hours from us. Yeah, three and a half, something like that.
Speaker 2:And it was actually kind of targeted between Greensboro and High Point, mm-hmm. So you know where the mall is. I don't even know. I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 3:Greensboro Mall or High Point Mall.
Speaker 2:Greensboro.
Speaker 3:There's a few Four seasons yeah.
Speaker 2:Four seasons. That's it. Yep, all right. So that's where it was around. Yep, all right. So this couple we're after the dude ted, ted, ted's his name, okay, ted and his girlfriend, slash wife, I don't know what they are got a kid together, an older kid. They were in high and ohio and then come down here because she has family here and we were up there looking at the family because that's the only thing that kind of registered to them was the family of hers. So, man, we, we staked out places, watched see who was coming in and out. Nobody was home. It it's during the day, people usually at work, you know normal folks.
Speaker 2:So it felt like we wasted the day. But things started popping up in the afternoon we started looking into. I want to say it was her mama and daddy finally got home and we talked to them and they were like, yeah, we don't like ted, ted's a p pos, yeah, and she just follows them around everywhere. Take, you know, I was always, you know, taking charges out on them. They're back and forth, back and forth. Gotcha typical somebody who's on drugs, you know thief, always getting in trouble. It's the same story.
Speaker 2:So she tells us to go look and there's a couple places for we had to go look at. And the first place we went to, we showed up and it was a couple there that knew them, but they they used to. They told us that Ted and and his wife or whatever it lived in like a camper behind them and they were causing so much trouble that they left, but told us what kind of vehicle she was driving. That helps, oh, yes, so we're, we're starting to get a little bit information now. We're starting to feel better about it. We've been up there for eight hours and nothing's going on until now. And then we tracked down her ex-husband, which lived in the area.
Speaker 3:Oh, the ex is great yes, they'll give you everything.
Speaker 2:yes, and I was like hey, what's up with this? And he was like dude, go get his ass. I'm tired of him being around my daughter, that's all tired of him being around the daughter. Yep, yep. And I said okay, I said what's up? Where do you think they're at he goes? Last time when I dropped my child off, like literally two days ago, they were in these little short-term rentals.
Speaker 3:You're only two days behind, like a condo.
Speaker 2:Yes, I know it's awesome. I'm like, all right, cool, here's a number. If you hear anything, we're going over there right now. Right, we go over there and speak to the office manager. Office manager said yes, you stay in there. I said, okay, so what about him? And they were like, yeah, we've seen him, he's been in and out, but he's not supposed to stay here. I said, okay, cool, they're like a little townhouse duplex, short-term rentals.
Speaker 2:So we go over there, we're watching the place and she's not home, the car's not there. So we're kind of go get something to eat. You know, you're kind of waiting to see what. So we go back after we do dinner and we look and we see a car pulling in and it's the car that matches the description. So the wife gets out and the daughter gets out, but no, ted, no, ted, no, ted. So, and from what we've gathered, you know they're, they're, they're busted up, they're back and forth. So right now I think they're busted up. That's what we're thinking. Gotcha, we pull up, of course, we have everything on. You know it's getting dark and we go inside the house. They're like yeah, you can search the house. All right, cool. So we go in and we search the house and she's like here, here's his stuff. He's an idiot. Blah, blah, blah. You know, right now she's wanting to help us. So I'm like, all right, cool, where's he hanging out at? Well, he's on a drinking binge right now with his homeless buddies.
Speaker 3:Well, he's got a schedule. Let me check his itinerary. All right, oh, drinking today, drinking buddies, okay.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, all right, where's your drinking buddies hanging out at? They're all homeless. I'm like, well, hell, they probably have been drinking some Mad Dog 2020 next to a garbage can probably. She was like no, they hang out in this little homeless camp right down the road here beside a Target. I said, okay, she goes. Matter of fact, I got GPS on his phone right now. It should be in share with me.
Speaker 2:I said, oh, thank you, let's take a look. Take a look, guess where it's at Right next to the Target. I said I'll be damned. I said, all right, so this is what we'll do. Do not call him, do not say anything, that we're coming. I mean, it's literally a mile down the road. So we take off and we get there, we're parked and we're on the phone with the whole entire time. We're parked in the target parking lot right with a bunch of other cars. Yep, it's dark now, okay, and we're looking at this little patch of woods. You can see some trash a little bit here and there. You know, you can you see like a little pass, but it's hard to get in there. You got a good identifying photo of them. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, oh yeah, no mistaking. Oh, no, mistaking, okay, cool.
Speaker 2:And right. So there was, like it interested, some houses on the left side of this piece of property, and on the right side was like CPNL or Duke Energy's power stuff, and they had a fence around it. So that's a little block of woods. You can't go nowhere. So we get out, make a plan.
Speaker 2:Matt goes all right, we're going to sneak up here and I'm going to go up beside this fence, between the fence and the woods. You come on the other side and make and like and go through, try to, you know, try to find them, whatever, and see if they'll push it. If we push them, we push them out towards me. I said, all right, cool, great plan, let's do it. So I get in there and we start, uh, crawling through, cut up and matt's on the other side and I'm crawling over, I'm starting to see like old tents, old tarps, trash everywhere. There's like needles everywhere. You can tell you know, and people, I'm seeing people, but it's not, it's not my guy, and some people are just scattered like cockroaches. And next, you know, I hear on the other side get on the ground, get on the ground right now, show me your hands.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, well, evidently he got them. So here I go, I'm running through these briars and all this patch of woods and I come out and, dude, we're bleeding all over the place. This dude is hung up. Matt's got him in handcuffs but he's like he's tired. He was cut up too, yeah. So we get back to the truck and he's drunk as a damn skunk and he probably shooting up something, who knows.
Speaker 3:Most likely he is In all bloody and in that environment. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I was. Yeah, we were trying not to touch him. You know we had gloves on, so we'll go. You know I'm cleaning up and I go meet. We call Greensboro PD. They come out. Okay, and big props to Greensboro PD. They were awesome to us, they were awesome with us. They were like hey, I called him, said look, this is what we got. He's got a uh, a warrant out of ncic. Here's the nick number, here's everything you need to know. We have them in custody right now. If you come pick them up, they're like cool, no problem, come out. Cops were cool to even ask us about what we did, because a lot of cops don't know what we do or what we can do, what we can't do a lot of them, don't?
Speaker 3:it's which?
Speaker 2:is crazy, because wouldn't you think they would teach that in basic law enforcement training?
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean, because you're going to interact with us from time to time. You know, be good to know kind of what we can do, what we can yeah, because some places hate us, some places don't mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really weird. Yeah, yeah, we can't. Yeah, because some places hate us Some places don't mind us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we don't want nothing to do with you. Well, I?
Speaker 3:mean we're a necessity that people have to have to be given bail. Somebody supervise all that.
Speaker 2:You know the Lulu Lev talk about how we take advantage of the poor minority. We're doing it just for the money. Why do you think cops?
Speaker 3:do? Why do you think cops do? Why do you think they work as cops? I mean, yes, there are police officers that really enjoy being an officer. They like serving the public. They got into it for the right reasons.
Speaker 2:My oldest son's about to go through BLAT.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have to have money to survive. Yeah so do we. It's a job, we're just not paid by the state. We're not paid by the state, you're not. We're not paid by them.
Speaker 3:We're paid up front, which is the correct thing, because you know you have a person that's directly connected with you and it shouldn't be the public paying for your exactly mistakes so that, like our audience, it's not your responsibility to pay for their bond right, and everything that we do is 100 on that's a you know private transaction with us and the I mean, we're still governed by you know limitations, but that's between us and the circle of people that are with that particular individual who messed up. So, yeah, I think that's the right thing. Yeah, I don't want to pay for a bunch of be released and monitored. You know that. I don't know. You're already paying for them to be housed.
Speaker 2:And you get are you paying for pretrial services? I'm not a big fan of pretrial services I am but I'm like there's certain things that they do that's good and there's some things that I don't like about it, because it's it is taxpayer funded.
Speaker 3:This is all a hard topic to to get right and and you know they've tried over and over years and years to to get it better and better. It's never going to be perfect.
Speaker 2:No, the DA's office likes it. But I mean, it's just cause they're they, it's got Arsenal, yeah, to use. But it's also on the taxpayer dollar, yeah. So there you go. But Ted got taken back to Ohio. He went back to Ohio.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And Dana was very happy. Nice and then paid me right then and there, good, we get back late, late, late, late at night. Takes it out of you, man, man, yeah, I think you know usually like me and you go do stuff you know for the next day or two. Yeah, I'm like, I'll see you in a couple days yeah, you just drain man, you put everything into it.
Speaker 3:You know you're staying up late, you get up early. You're um constantly looking. You know because you want to make it count. You know we're looking on the computer at stuff and you know you cause you want to make it count. You know we're looking on the computer at stuff and you know, you don't want to go that far and come back empty handed. That's a terrible feeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we like we got this one case that we're working out in JV. Well it's now, he's a little bit closer, we're not going to say yeah we found out one of the alphabet groups is after him, yeah, not just us. So I mean I think there's more to this guy than we realize. Yeah, and it's it's hard like, because he is definitely a like a fart in the wind yeah he's.
Speaker 3:I don't know how he's surviving. Um, you know, you have to have certain things to make it right yeah right um saying that he's a carpenter by trade or construction and yet he has no license, no vehicle that anybody knows. Of that we've talked to. How do you do that business and you don't have a vehicle to haul things? I don't know this guy. He's a mystery. Yeah, we'll figure it out though. Yeah, he's really laying low at the moment and uh but he don't have much of a digital footprint no well, that was a story of ted um out of greensboro, north carolina.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'm sure he's backing up ohio now doing his time. That was the second time he ran to North Carolina, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, he likes it here, huh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, evidently. Well, you know he's getting to follow his girl around. She ain't got nowhere else to go. She seems loyal.
Speaker 3:Here's the GPS where he's at. Go get him now, go get him right now.
Speaker 2:Seems like to me he's just trying to get it back up with baby daddy who knows. I don't care, it worked for us at the time. All right guys. Well, that's the end of today's show. We thank you for tuning in and oh, happy July 4th coming up, I hope you ain't protesting.
Speaker 3:It Dumb if you are, I'll just say that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, be safe, enjoy yourselves, enjoy your family, have fun Listen to some good music. Drink you a few, but have fun Be safe. And if you need us, call us. We got you All right, Chad. Well, happy 4th to you. We'll see you.
Speaker 3:Happy 4th, man, and you hold it down while I'm gone? All right, all right, dude.
Speaker 2:All right, guys, we'll talk to you later.
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