Off The Hook
We are a group of private investigators, bounty hunters / fugitive recovery agents, and bail bondsmen that have been in this line of work for over twenty five years and have many stories to tell. We have traveled all over the country catching fugitives and bringing them back to have their day in court. With our years of experience we are trying to educate the public about bail and why it is a needed part of our judicial system.
Off The Hook
Mama's Lies and Pedophile's Den
Every fugitive leaves a trail – some lead to places darker than expected. When Chad, Rob, Sal, and Eric pursued a $10,000 bond forfeiture out of Brunswick County, they anticipated a routine recovery. What they couldn't have predicted was the disturbing truth lurking beneath the surface of this case.
The team's hunt for "Donnie the Delinquent" took them to Little River on the North Carolina-South Carolina border. With only a jail photo to guide them, they staked out a suspected drug house, oblivious to the fact that their target had actually ridden past them on a bicycle, looking nothing like his mugshot. The recovery agents employed their tried-and-true tactics – questioning locals at a nearby Burger King, building intel on the fugitive's movements, and eventually confronting the suspect's mother.
When they finally located their target hiding under a bed in his mother's house, it wasn't the end of the story but rather the beginning of something more troubling. Their investigation had uncovered evidence suggesting the young fugitive had fallen victim to an older predator. The discovery of hundreds of inappropriate images plastering the walls of a trailer belonging to a man who had "befriended" their target forced the team to contact detectives about what they'd found.
This episode raises profound questions about accountability in the justice system while revealing the complex social issues that often accompany bail jumping cases. Drug addiction, homelessness, exploitation, and family dysfunction create moral dimensions to what might otherwise seem like straightforward enforcement work. The hosts reflect on how their target, despite his criminal charges, was also a product of his challenging environment.
For a raw, unfiltered look at the bail recovery world beyond what Hollywood portrays, tune in to this eye-opening episode. Want more stories from the field? Subscribe and join Rob and Chad as they share the realities of bail enforcement – the tactics, the challenges, and the unexpected human stories they encounter along the way.
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with chad and rob very fine people on both sides. These are real stories, but the names have been changed what's going on?
Speaker 3:guys, it's rob, I'm chad, what's up?
Speaker 2:and we got another exciting episode today. Uh, what's going on, chad? What's happening with you? I feel like I ain't seen much of you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you went on your trip, your little adventure, there for a couple days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you about it in a minute, but first I got to brag a little bit about my boy. He just finished up his sophomore year and he finished up his sophomore year with a 4.0. So I'm very proud of you, son. Keep it going. Um, uh, it's awesome. But now back to my trip, all right. So I gotta you know, of course, chad's got these badass t-shirts and hats. You got to go on, you got to get them. I've got mine, I've got. I think I got one for every two. I got one for every day for two weeks to wear. So I went down to sand in my boots. Music festival, all right, not a huge fan of that festival. It was good. It won't. It wasn't spectacular.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was curious.
Speaker 3:I looked at it. Yeah, I saw some wrappers or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was two stages. They're like a half a mile from each other. You had to walk in the sand. It was hot.
Speaker 3:That's where you get sand in your boots.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I won't wear no boots. I was barefooted and I saw some idiots out there with some boots. I'm like how the hell are you walking around in the sand with boots on it's?
Speaker 3:horrible. It's a figure of speech I know right, Don't be funny.
Speaker 2:But while I was out there, of course, I wore a different shirt every day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you sent me pictures of it.
Speaker 2:I sent you a picture. I appreciate that it was America.
Speaker 3:Day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you were sporting the one sporting this one on and I had my American flag thing on my head and my handkerchief or whatever, and the day before it was neon day, so I wore one of the off-the-hook shirts that would kind of glow.
Speaker 3:Oh, you had the bright green. Yeah, the bright one yeah.
Speaker 2:So I wore that, and the day before that I wore just a regular. I don't even know what day that was, but anyway, I got so many compliments off your shirts.
Speaker 3:Man, I appreciate it Awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were like hey man. I was like, hey, go check them out, Salty Southern Gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was fun, man, it was hot. It was a long drive back from Gulf Shores. I don't think I'll ever do that again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, wouldn't wasn't worth all that no, they hyped it up too much.
Speaker 2:I mean it was cool.
Speaker 3:Evidently I didn't see none of the rappers, but there was like t-pain was there and like oh two chains and I'm gonna tell you, like, while you were gone, like like the first day or second day, something like that, um, teddy swims was here oh, he got postponed. The first night. Then he came back. Oh, did he the next day?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I really wanted to see him. I bet you that would have been good. Yeah, he's got good vocals.
Speaker 3:Oh man he's amazing vocals. Yeah, I would have liked to check that out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but other than that it was fun. Won't do it again. Uh, do something simpler next time. Um, oh, another thing, sir. Have you seen where Trump just straight up told the South South African president yeah, he, that was kind of funny, Like he brought him in there. They're talking like oh yeah, by the way. Oh, it's not happening. No, it's not. Well, okay.
Speaker 3:Lower the lights and lower the lights and show them the video. Oh yeah, and here's a folder full of documents showing all these stories of it happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like yeah, you're not fooling, you're not going to fool that man.
Speaker 3:He is done, I love it. I love it. He's doing it and it. You know doing stuff that other people are either afraid to do or just for whatever reason, they won't turn a blind eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's nice to see somebody doing it and I like the uh, I like how he's trying to create peace through that world, because here's what I, here's my point of view, here's's my opinion If you create peace in the entire world and these tariffs they're all set now. Yeah, we can all trade with each other and all make money, and everybody's going to prosper from it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I think so.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:It sounds like it. It sounds like things that need to be addressed. I mean, yeah, it's right, it's. It sounds like it.
Speaker 2:You know it sounds like things that need to be addressed. I mean, yeah, I mean I just I hope everything works out great and it doesn't matter some of these democrats it does not matter what he does think you're cancer, they still hate him.
Speaker 3:Yes they will um trump derangement. They need to. People need to stop looking at who's got the D or the R next to their name and which topics do you agree on, no matter who's attached to it.
Speaker 2:Well, it's funny because some of the things he's talking about now wanting to do, the Democrats were talking about that.
Speaker 3:There's plenty of video footage. That's the thing about the Internet it never dies. I mean, you can pull up footage and you can see that they were all for it. What changed?
Speaker 2:Wokeness maybe.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And that crap's over with. Thank God. There's plenty of footage of them saying the exact things that he's doing. They were all for, but for some reason they're not. You know, they're greatly against it. Now Enlighten us. What changed?
Speaker 2:Yeah, please let us know. It's funny. I saw a comedian the other day. Before we get into our story, I saw a comedian the other day. He was talking about he goes. Trump got up there and said hey, there's a man and there's a woman. Now there's a bunch of dudes walking around with boobs going. What do I do? What do I do?
Speaker 3:You did it to yourself, man. You know you needed mental help before you did that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't chop your wiener off, man.
Speaker 3:Leave it as you came. You know there's something upstairs in your head that's not right.
Speaker 2:If you want to be gay, be gay. We don't care. We don't care, we like women. But it's okay, we don't care what you like, just don't chop your wiener off.
Speaker 3:We don't need flags telling you what sex you are into. You know, we don't have straight flags and no, that would be.
Speaker 2:I don't know what you would call it. That would be. You would be.
Speaker 3:We don't need these rainbows, all this, this crap. Like, just just be who you are, man, that's. That's all you got to do. Don't have to wave it around at everybody and look at me, look at me. Just whoever the freak you are, be it, that's all, we don't care, nobody cares.
Speaker 2:Alright, so we're going to get into our story here. Our story, it spans out of Brunswick County, north Carolina.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's the one we're doing. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one where we went down to Little River.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that one, yeah yeah, yeah. We had a little discussion before. We're like okay, which story are we going to do? We don't want to do a rerun, so we got to keep them straight. You know, over time they kind of you know, oh yeah, I forgot about that one. So, yeah, all right, we got. We got it all right.
Speaker 2:So this story spans out of brunswick county.
Speaker 3:It is a ten thousand dollar bone. We'll say something like that. If it was, I think it was pretty sizable. Um, it was a young kid who wrote that. I think you did, was it? I think so.
Speaker 2:Oh well, before we got to do the story time, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know what to do with my hands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hang on. That's the volume, there we go.
Speaker 3:Crank it up, man. All right, there we go. That's my jam. I know we can't play Crank it up man.
Speaker 1:All right, that's my jam. I know we can't play too much of it, though we get distracted.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, so all right. So it started out in Brunswick County $10,000 bond. I guess I wrote that, I don't remember.
Speaker 3:Somebody did with our group. Yeah, somebody Anyway.
Speaker 2:Anyway, Anyway, we get the forfeiture start looking, he had it was drug charges.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty certain it was drug charges he had. I believe so that. And like larceny, I want to say it was drugs and stealing. So yeah, we get the forfeiture, you know, we get our folder out, we start looking. You know making calls, it's a dead end right this kid right so we start pulling information off of the kid's family?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, this is a pretty.
Speaker 3:I remember the mother. She was um not doing too well financially in life general. It was like in, like in this house that had a bunch of Before we get to that. It was me, you, sal and Eric that all went the first time.
Speaker 2:Because it was multiple trips.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had to do this in a couple of trips From where we're at down to Myrtle Beach, south Carolina. It's about an hour.
Speaker 2:That was Little River.
Speaker 3:Little River. Right before it's about an hour, that was Little River. Little River right before it's on the line, anyway, but it went into Myrtle too. Our adventures did.
Speaker 2:He had a second trip, didn't he yeah, yeah Anyway. I was with him on the first trip, right, I didn't go to the second. I don't know I was gone somewhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I mean, I think we got a tip later, so that's why we had to do it without you. You know you got to go when you got to go in this business. It's that type of business Like we can, you know, be sitting here and telling you these stories right now and they say, you know our phones ring at you know odd hours and you know we got to drop what we're doing and either go handle putting somebody back in jail or go write a bond, kind of how we do it. Anyhow, back to the story. Uh, this guy, what are we gonna name him?
Speaker 2:oh, oh god, uh, dirty, uh, not everybody's dirty, he wasn't a cleanly.
Speaker 3:He was dirty behind today. It wasn't his fault, remember, true? We'll just call him Donnie the delinquent.
Speaker 2:Donnie the delinquent. Okay, donnie the delinquent, donnie the delinquent.
Speaker 3:So this little kid I call him kid, I mean, he was probably 22, 23, maybe, Young 20s, Something like that, Young early 20s. Anyway, so little Donnie, we have to take a trip down to worry that we go to the last address. That's on the paperwork and it's like a what was it? I'm going to say it was like a mobile home in a kind of not so great area down in Little River and we got a tip that he was buying drugs at a house.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I remember that it was a house at the end of the road because they gave us a description. You go over here to this street and you go down all the way to the end and it's a cul-de-sac.
Speaker 2:Turn by Larry to smoke.
Speaker 3:He smoked a crack pipe on the corner, Do it on the corner, you know, go by Larry and keep going, Anyway. So we're all. We're all geared up, we got our bulletproof stuff on and you know, basically screaming, you know we're bail agents and Was it a trailer park it was. It was a nicer trailer park. I want to say yeah, Because it had.
Speaker 2:there was like one rundown trailer back there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and they were doing work on another one, something like that. I remember that's where we kind of set up and kind of watched this house. We had to watch a house. It was a drug dealer's house, apparently. This kid was going there and getting his drugs and we watched and watched. We were in different vehicles. I remember Eric took this, we were in. You know, we were in different vehicles. I remember Eric took this, we were in ours. We had a couple of different vehicles, right, so we would watch from different points. Anyway, we finally are going to approach this house, remember that, yep.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:Well, we only had one photo of this kid, remember? Yeah, because it was the jail photo. Yep, yep, yep. Well, we only had one photo of this kid.
Speaker 2:Remember yeah.
Speaker 3:Because it was the jail photo. Yep, we couldn't find any social media on the kid, couldn't find anything, and it was just the one photo when he got arrested one time in jail. And those aren't always the greatest pictures or representation of what a person looks like, cause it can be weeks, months, even years later that you have a photo that you're going by Right Person that we get from the jail. So that's why we always try to take a photo of the person you know when we get them out.
Speaker 3:If it don't take them five hours, right, they're getting slower about releasing people. So, anyway, we just had this little photo and we're standing outside this house, we surround it. I remember we surrounded it and I remember the dude came up and I think Eric and I were standing up there, you know, plotting on what we're going to, how we're going to approach it, me and Sam, on the backside and a kid a kid on a bike came by.
Speaker 3:I was like hey, what are y'all doing, you know? Kind of annoying, and we totally dismissed the kid. But later on it turned out it was him.
Speaker 2:It was him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah See this kid was homeless. This kid was homeless.
Speaker 2:He was bouncing around.
Speaker 3:And we didn't really know it at the time because we had one house that we were told that he was at but he would visit the drug dealer's house. So we were surrounded in the drug dealer's house and I think we finally found out that there was nobody in that house. He wasn't there. But that kid the kid we found out later was actually him that we were looking for. Yeah, so he kind of got away because we didn't like, but he looked nothing like his photo.
Speaker 2:Right, and I remember us going down to we were in Little River, yeah, and we were looking at Mama's house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was like a Burger King. Yep, down there, mama's house. Yeah, there was like a burger king. Uh, yep, down there and there was a it. There was a street up by it and you go on down it, down the road and there was like this uh, it was a house, but it was. People lived in different parts of like a duplex.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah like a duplex thing well, I remember us talking to mama that day. She said she didn't see. You ain't seeing him, don't we get?
Speaker 3:that a lot. I had seen him. Yeah. Well, mothers are going to protect. It's weird, like if a mother truly cares, they're going to say he needs to take care of this and we're going to do this today you know right right now, or they'll do the exact opposite straight up lie to you straight up, look at you, and I ain't seen him in god knows how long and I would get that we leave the house after talking to her go eat.
Speaker 3:I had burger king, yeah yeah, we're sitting there with all our gear on, wearing the little crowns, and then burger king, you know, yeah, I still got that picture. That's funny um, we go, we, we come back and regroup in and well, we went there and we were talking to him and we were asking about the kid because he's riding around.
Speaker 3:He's riding around on his bike and, like you know, you can get food cheap at Burger King and it's right there in the location where we're trying to establish a pattern of where this kid's going, cause, you know, people kind of are creatures of habit. They're gonna, if he's he doesn't have a car, he's he's on a bike. We we're still trying to figure that out too. Did he have a? Did he have some kind of scooter? Did he have what it? Was he? What did he have?
Speaker 2:yep, and it was a bicycle. Because you remember this story a lot better.
Speaker 3:Now it's coming back to me, yeah as we talk about it, because this one was quite a while ago and you know these stories, they kind of, you know, blend together over time. Oh, God man it does, but I remember that we were talking to the ladies that worked at Burger King and we brought in our yeah, we had a they recognized him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they said yeah, yeah, he comes in here. And they told us his mother lives back here. They told us that because she came in there regularly. It makes sense. She didn't have much money, she didn't have a car, she was walking, so you're going to go anywhere that's within distance. We always hit Dollar Generals and that they're in a certain vicinity of our target Convenience stores.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we and that they're in a certain vicinity of our target Convenience stores?
Speaker 3:Yeah, cause we know that they're going to go in these places. It's just a matter of getting the right person that's seen them.
Speaker 2:I think I remember Bird King employee telling us that he was. He was like kicked out of a couple of places.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's right. That's right yeah.
Speaker 2:He was kicked out of a couple of places.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, out of a couple places. Yeah, yeah, so, but they gave us good information about the mom. So so we're like okay, but we've been there like at this point pretty good while during that day. So we had to basically call it a day. You know, I mean, we don't get them always the first go be nice if we did, but oh, god.
Speaker 2:We've been to other states multiple times yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that sucks, um, so we go back, we give it a little bit of time and, um, I think we got a call from one of the might have been one of the girls at burger king and I think you were out of town and I think me and Sal were like all right, we're going, because they were like mom was here with him and they were just here right and we're like cool, we're on the way and we book it down there.
Speaker 3:You know it takes us about roughly an hour to get there. We get down and they're at that house. That we told you right by Burger King down the street. We go there and we go into the house. The mom's like I hadn't seen him. There's a guy that's in there too. You wouldn't remember this part. There's a guy that's in there too. So you wouldn't remember this part. You weren't here, there was a guy in there. So what we did was we separated, sal went and talked to this dude and this is a strategy that we use.
Speaker 2:We've used a ton. You separate them and you talk to police.
Speaker 3:Do this too, I mean they do it because, because your stories have to collaborate, right Right. If they don't, they know somebody's lying. So Sal took the one dude and I spoke to the mother and she's telling me I just hadn't seen him in a while. I'm worried about him. I ain't seen him. You know this sob story and everything. I'm like all right, all right, cool, he needs help and and so I go.
Speaker 3:I'm going back to the vehicle and I'm like sal, you know, she's telling me this. He's smiling at me, sal is, and he's like hey, bro, that dude told me he's like it's like if I give him um 50 bucks, he said, he said he'll tell me where he's at.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know like, all right, I'll do it, no problem. What's up?
Speaker 3:So he goes, bro, he's, he's in the house hiding under the bed. So we're like, all right, cool, I still got the. I still got video of this. Actually, when we were, we were filming stuff with our cams. We go back in the house. She's still like insistent, she's like no, no, he's not in here, he's not in here. And you know when you're getting warm you know how they get more tense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they start trying to talk. Did she ever step in front of the bedroom to try to keep you from going in?
Speaker 3:She went. Well, it was a little tiny like duplex room thing that she was in, and so Sal went in, I was right behind him and then she kind of got in between us and then she stood like position herself where the bed was in the wall and so you had to walk through this little path to get to the other side of the bed. And she kind of positioned herself there and it's like he's not here, you know, just shaking her head and putting her hands up, I don't know where he's at. And sal, sal, kind of like excuse me, and went over and the dude popped up, man, and uh, we're like lying to us. He goes. Well, you, he's my son and you know he don't mean nothing. And then you know he don't mean it. Oh, oh, shoot, I forgot a big part of this. What's that? Oh man, I can't believe I cut this far without telling this part of it, the part about the dude, all right, we'll get.
Speaker 2:All right, we'll go back to it. Go ahead and finish with the captain, All right, all right.
Speaker 3:So anyway. So yeah, let's kind of get to the end of the story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, go ahead. So y'all cuff him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we cuffed him, and he's a young kid, that I mean he didn't have a ride to court, nobody was helping him. I felt bad for the kid. He really was just messed up. He was very young, he was on drugs, he was stealing and he was just a product of his environment and wasn't changing things. But there was more to it than just that. So we'll go back.
Speaker 3:He tells you about that neighborhood. So we heard it from someone else before we got to all this. So it's kind of backtracking here, but it's important to the story. So he wasn't staying there, he was homeless, he was bouncing around, right right, but he wasn't staying at his mother's.
Speaker 2:That part was true there was a guy that he met at the park is what we were told.
Speaker 3:And this kid was very young. This man was in his 50s. All right, you can imagine that the guy's befriending him to where this kid's coming over to his house. There's something odd about this, right, right. Well, it was down the road in another section. It's probably I don't know six, seven miles away where this guy lived.
Speaker 3:So we got directions on where this guy lived, we went over there, we were, we in Sal's truck and we're like pulled up. It's a little cul-de-sac and there are these trailer developments, you know, real close beside each other and I saw this guy in the house next to the target that we were looking at, the guy's house. We didn't want to approach it yet. We're still trying to figure him out. But the guy was out in the yard, next door neighbor.
Speaker 3:So you always wonder can I talk to the neighbors or are they going to tell them? You know, dude came out and he was wearing something like, something like I wear, you know, black rifle, coffee and American flag. And you know I'm like he's my guy. I know he'll tell me he's not. He's not this guy If he's talking to little kids and stuff like that and having them over like there's something there I get, I get over there and I talk to him get out of the truck. We're talking. He goes. Yeah, that dude he. He told me, he told me exactly what was up with that guy. He goes. Yeah, the ambulance came out here one night and had to get something out of his ass.
Speaker 3:He had stuck up his ass oh no yes, and I was like, okay, so we're dealing with that, are we? So we went and as we were talking to this guy, the uh, target of the house drove up and we're like, thank you very much, I won't bring you into this, but thank you for the information. So he gets out. He's a pudgy little older man gets out and we're like are you so-and-so? He's like, yeah, that's, you know? Yes, me. I'm like do you know, um, donnie, donnie the delinquent? Yep, he's like, yeah, I know, donnie. I said, okay, when's the last time you seen donnie? Oh, it's been you know day or two. You know I saw him. Oh, okay, um, do you mind if we come in and talk to you a little bit about this? Sure, so he invites us in.
Speaker 3:We go in and, um, you know we're talking to him. Do you mind? If you know? We just look around, make sure he's. Is he staying here? He goes, well, he does from time to time. You know he stays here, okay, so I stay in the living room and Sal walks with him to another room. It's like two bedrooms, one on each side of this little trailer. He walks in there and while he's in there, I kind of glance in the other bedroom. I'm looking for anything that Donnie the delinquent is leaving behind. That bedroom had pictures of underage kids. Looked like they were from a magazine. I don't know where you get these magazines. I don't.
Speaker 2:I didn't know, they still made magazines.
Speaker 3:Pedophile magazines or whatever. He had torn them out neatly, I guess, out of the magazines and he had pasted them all on the walls. Out of the magazines and he had pasted them all on the walls. There was. There must've been hundreds of photos pasted on the walls in that room, that spare bedroom, of these young boys that were from a magazine. It looked like I don't know where he'd get them from. Anyway, I was like, and then I went back to the living room. About that time Sal and this dude came back and Sal's eyes were like you know, like huge, bro, huge, and we, we got outside and, uh, we talked and he was like told me the same thing in his bedroom. That was his bedroom, this was the guest one that I peeked in, and we were like dude, we need to tell somebody about this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we actually called a detective and reported him. So we don't know whatever happened with that. But the dude had met this little kid at the park some time ago, I don't know how much longer. Like I said, he was early twenties I think, when we bonded him out, but man, he was borderline and anyway, the kid was in his drugs and he was doing whatever for him with this guy which I don't know. You know it's that's where the kid was staying some of the time. So, wow, yeah, so this kid had a lot of mental problems going on between that with this older influence name, with the drugs well, he's better off in jail yeah, unfortunately, until he can get a better environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that just leads you back to why our president is trying to get rid of the fentanyl and crack down on drugs and stuff because of stuff like this. I mean, it's horrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this kid got to be dependent on them and I think he was getting it through this older guy in exchange for whatever.
Speaker 2:Damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was a sad case, man. I felt really bad for this kid. Unfortunately, there was another route. He still had to deal with what he had done that was illegal. Well, donnie the delinquent, donnie the delinquent, unfortunately, yeah. Well, so you know, donnie the delinquent, donnie the delinquent, unfortunately, yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow, that sucks, but then again, then again, it's $10,000 is off the books now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that's yeah, we, you know, we keep up our end of the deal, right, right. Yeah, we keep up our end of the deal, right, right, we supply the cash for your bond. I mean, I don't know how else you're going to do this. I mean, liberal people get very angry with the way the system works and it's not perfect, but there has to be an accountability of some way. Right, we have to have laws. Without laws're, we're basically animals, right, you know? Um, you can't just say, oh well, it's, he's okay, that one's okay, you know that he did this. You can't, because it's not fair to everybody. Y'all like being fair, right, well, it's.
Speaker 2:It's that they're one-sided man.
Speaker 3:I think they're one-sided well, we did our part that day hey, that's all as long as it matters.
Speaker 2:That's the only thing that matters yeah, I heard now and now and then after that. Don't worry, it's not over with yet. We still got to deal with the school board attorney, and now we got to deal with e-courts. Oh yeah, our new electronic system, God man.
Speaker 3:It's difficult, it's stressful, but I think it's going to be good once we get proficient with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so, yeah. Well, that's the story of dying. That's it for today. Dying delinquent is done. There's another story.
Speaker 3:It popped in my head while we were talking yeah, I got another one. I thought about too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we got tons more, so we just got to figure them out.
Speaker 3:And any of you guys listening, or ladies out there listening, anything to do with what we're doing. If you're an attorney, if you're a prosecutor, if you work in the judicial system, if you work in the PI sector, you want to be on the show.
Speaker 2:just hit us up we like any kind of.
Speaker 3:I think it's just good general information that we're putting out there for people in different areas of the country that would like to hear some of this stuff. Yeah no, absolutely it's not just our little corner of the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let us know. Hit us up. Go to our YouTube page Off the Hook Bail Bonds Podcast. You can comment and subscribe and you can send messages on there. Um, look us up off the hook bellcom and listen to us on all streaming platforms so you can get up with us one way or another.
Speaker 3:Yep, check us out, let us know and we'll have you on the show. Absolutely, that rhymed Cool Anyway. Right on man, uh, chad's good seeing you again. That rhymed Cool Anyway.
Speaker 2:Right on, man Chad. It's good seeing you again, brother.
Speaker 3:You too, Roberto.
Speaker 2:You're going to be gone? Yeah, so this one airs next week.
Speaker 3:I'm going to Outer Banks for a couple days and then I'm going to see Metallica and Pantera. Oh, I cannot wait. I got my Pantera shirt. I can't wait to see Pantera.
Speaker 2:Well, I know right by the time this airs, it'd be after Memorial day, so I hope everybody had a good Memorial day. Right on Uh and Chad, you got some. I can't wait for you to send me the videos from that. That's going to be awesome. Oh yeah, I'm jelly for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is happening, yes.
Speaker 2:I can't wait. All right guys. Well, we love you, we mean it. Peace, I'm Rob.
Speaker 3:I'm Chad, peace out.
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