Off The Hook
We are a group of private investigators, bounty hunters / fugitive recovery agents, and bail bondsmen that have been in this line of work for over twenty five years and have many stories to tell. We have traveled all over the country catching fugitives and bringing them back to have their day in court. With our years of experience we are trying to educate the public about bail and why it is a needed part of our judicial system.
Off The Hook
The Art of Catching a Fugitive: The Dirty Electrician's Downfall
Chad and Rob take us deep into the world of fugitive recovery with "The Dirty Electrician" case, showcasing how modern bounty hunters use deception and digital sleuthing to apprehend bail jumpers who think they've escaped justice.
When another bondsman reached out for help tracking a fugitive with a $25,000 bond, the chase began with a simple social media investigation. Creating a fake female profile, Rob quickly infiltrated the fugitive's social circle and established communication that would ultimately lead to his capture. What followed was a weeks-long game of cat-and-mouse stretching from Phoenix, Arizona to Richmond, Virginia.
The story unfolds like a thriller - complete with strategic text messages, fake dinner plans, and perfect timing as local bounty hunters executed the apprehension at a hotel just off I-95. The fugitive walked straight into custody, thinking he was meeting a romantic connection. Instead, he found himself in handcuffs, facing justice after trying to evade his court appearance. The tale concludes with a satisfying confrontation with the fugitive's mother, who had previously denied any knowledge of his whereabouts.
Beyond the main story, Chad and Rob discuss recent events including a Metallica concert that registered on the Richter scale, upcoming vacation plans, and observations about artificial intelligence's growing impact on our world. Their casual conversation style makes you feel like you're hanging out with friends who just happen to chase fugitives for a living.
Curious about what happens when bail jumpers go on the run? Listen now to get an inside look at the calculated risks, psychological manipulation, and interstate coordination required to bring fugitives to justice.
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob Very fine people on both sides. These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
Speaker 2:What's up, guys? I'm Rob.
Speaker 3:I'm Chad. What's up?
Speaker 2:And we are back again for another episode of some thrilling stories. But before we get into our story, man Chad did you see that? Where Metallica was playing up at Virginia Tech and he rocked it out so hard that it created a small earthquake?
Speaker 3:Yeah, supposedly it measured a three on a Richter scale.
Speaker 2:I read that in one place. That's pretty badass.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of vibrations being put forth by that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah Because that's what the Virginia Tech comes out to is Inner Sandman.
Speaker 3:It was 100,000 people, so I heard if that's correct or not. That's one of the things I saw 100,000 people.
Speaker 2:You'll get to see it here very shortly.
Speaker 3:I get to see it at the end of this month, the 31st of May.
Speaker 2:I at the end of this month, the 31st of May. I'm kind of jelly. You got to give me some videos.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's three bands. I see they picked up different people. They had Fred Durst. I wanted to see him.
Speaker 2:Oh, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3:He's like the 90s band that he was in.
Speaker 2:Oh, Limp.
Speaker 3:Bizkit, limp Bizkit. Yeah, there you go, did it all for the.
Speaker 2:Nookie.
Speaker 3:Correct biscuit. Yeah, there you go. Um did it all for the nookie, correct? So I guess they're picking up different ones as they go. But metallic is the headliner and um, but I am a panterra fan, so I get my panterra yeah, man, that's gonna be awesome. Man, I'm, I did, I'm really wild man, that dude's, that is a serious looking cat dude.
Speaker 2:Zach wild is a monster on the guitar dude.
Speaker 3:That dude, the way he holds the guitar and he plays it, just that whole thing he's got going on. Man, that's the essence of heavy metal. Yeah, man, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that's going to be good man. I'm actually going on a little vacation. I'm going down to the Sand in my boots festival down in Alabama in a couple days, going to get away, and Brooks and Dunn will be there. That's who I really want to see, brooks and Dunn. My girlfriend wants to see Morgan Wallen, but I'm not a big Morgan Wallen fan is that a guy or girl?
Speaker 3:I have no idea dude, I'm so tired of that I'm sorry If there's anybody out there listening.
Speaker 2:man just pick a side.
Speaker 3:All right, here's one that gets me a lot. We won't go into a whole lot of it, but I saw one recently. It was a girl and girl Girl decides to become a guy and stay with the girl. Why didn't the girl, the original girl, other one just pick a dude? If the girl's becoming a dude Like that's a lot of effort to go through.
Speaker 2:I'm already confused.
Speaker 3:Right, I know. Well, they definitely are, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Well, all I know is, if you don't know what a girl versus a woman versus a man is, go milk a bull.
Speaker 3:Look man, god does not make mistakes. All right, so if you were born that way and you're questioning things. It's a mental thing that you need to address, not a physical thing you need to address.
Speaker 2:It's getting out of hand, I think.
Speaker 3:Well, the thing I saw about you got to be what? 18 to get a tattoo. And when you ask the liberal about this, they say well, tattoos are permanent. You think that chopping off your things not? Yeah, I'd much rather get laser removal for a tattoo than try to stick a thing back on that you cut off.
Speaker 2:I don't know dude.
Speaker 3:Anyway, we'll get off that topic.
Speaker 2:So last week we had a good week, but the problem is I only saw you for like one day. I think yeah, yeah, and you had to go down there.
Speaker 3:Scali, the South Carolina Private Investigators Conference. It was cool. I got you know, did some socializing, met some cool, interesting people that do actually some people that we might be doing some work with that are. They do executive protection on the western part of the state Right, and so I was doing a little collab with them cause they stop at like Raleigh and where you know, everything East of Raleigh they're not really into. So I'm like well, we like to go up to Raleigh.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So that would fill in the gaps.
Speaker 2:It's only, it's not far. I mean it's yeah, man. So how was the conference? Was it good?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, yeah, they stepped up their game as far as versus bail bonding conferences, with how they hold things, and it's nice. One of the topics that actually was two classes, that was toward the end that I liked in particular is the use of AI and how much they're talking about is the use of AI and how much they're talking about. They're saying that Google is going to be replaced. Your search results are going to be replaced with AI results. Based on what you, your search criteria has been in the past. Ai is going to figure out what, what selection. You would want something to that effect. Anyway, man, that can be that effect.
Speaker 2:Anyway, um, man, that can be, that can be, like that can be. It's almost scary how AI has become.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, well, there's lots of facets to it. I mean, for us you know we work a lot on SEO for, uh, you know where we rank amongst?
Speaker 2:I mean we have to compete against 20-some other companies right man, I don't even know who like two-thirds in our area.
Speaker 3:That's what we're competing against, you know, when you search on your phone for a bondsman. So we're competing against those people. So I'm constantly trying to work on SEO stuff. Well, it looks like our SEO is going to change and I'm not too scared about it because our content is, you know, such that. You know we spend a lot of time on content on our website. Yeah, off the hook bail.
Speaker 3:And plus the podcast I mean, come on, Well, yeah, that's on our website too, so it's content that's put on every week. But anyway, the AI thing. There's also a way to spot AI. There's websites out there that I was writing, taking notes, and there's a couple that you put it in and it'll tell you if it's AI or not. I think there's actually one website that says AI or not.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you remember it was like a month or two ago when JD Vance was across seas talking about AI. He wants to get out in front of it he wants to get, yeah, and the USB and you know, and charge it. But your problem is, man, some of these Lululefties, if they ever get a hold of it, you know they'll. You know you know how the media does, you know they have an agenda and they can use that towards that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I definitely see the media getting a hold of it and like making a picture that's not real, right, or even a video, like this guy in the class. He made like a couple of videos and uh, was um showing us the videos and like at the end of it he's like that wasn't real and it's pretty darn close, it's pretty good. Yeah, um, and I can see that being you know, even getting it even better, and you know I see big problems with that down future, but it also can can save you a lot of work yeah I think it's going to make a lot of people lazy.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, or than they are um speaking of ai, did you see that, uh, on tiktok man, it's the baby talk that it's like babies doing like little short clips from like movie scenes. Oh no, and then it got one action for, uh, theo vaughn doing a podcast and it looks like theo fawn has a baby and he's talking and it looks like a real baby talking. It's weird, it's a guy, little mullet. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny, it's gonna be man. I love iet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny, it's funny, it's good to be here, man.
Speaker 3:I love listening to Theo Vaughn.
Speaker 2:He's good Dude, he comes up with that, he's out of nowhere.
Speaker 1:He's like some crazy stuff you know, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:You got to check his podcast out you know, yeah, like that, that would be awesome.
Speaker 2:Of course, the phone's gonna ring while we're here, yeah, anyway, um, let's move on. So, speaking as speaking of, uh, some some stuff earlier, this next story that we have for you guys um, god, I got, I have this picture, like it's been lasered into my brain, I think, and it's horrible. He's dirty, so we're going to call this guy the dirty electrician. So, before we get started on this story, here we go. I can tell a story.
Speaker 1:I got too much to tell. I can tell a story.
Speaker 2:I got too much to tell there we go. That's about it because, like I said, you don't want to get a strike what you doing over there.
Speaker 3:I'm just replying to the person that called us, Cause you know I'm trying to keep business rolling Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so the dirty electrician so I think I vaguely remember this one yeah, you remember it because I you were sitting, you were sitting in office when you know there's all this is going on, because it was like it spanned over like a couple weeks of talking to him. So the dirty electrician he was wanted out of brunswick county. It was. I want to say it was 25 000 bond. Okay, out of brunswick county, was it ours? No, no, it was not. It was um bulldog. A Brunswick County, was it ours? No, no, it was not. It was um bulldog. What was his name?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not around anymore. Um Anthony.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's working at jail now. Yeah, he's jailing. Oh is he? Yeah, he had gotten up with me and said hey, man, I need some help looking for this guy. I have no idea where he's at.
Speaker 3:Gave me some information.
Speaker 2:started looking into it, found his social media and then, you know, with my fake girl.
Speaker 3:Of course.
Speaker 2:And of course I was already friends with a bunch of you know.
Speaker 3:Go through his list, yeah, Go through his list and see like most of his friends and girls.
Speaker 2:I was like I had like. So yeah, just go through his list and see like most of his friends are girls. I was like I had like. So that gives you kind of an idea where those heads at right.
Speaker 3:I had like 50 mutual friends with him. Perfect, Perfect. Anything over 10 is yeah.
Speaker 2:Yep, so I friend him and of course he friends me.
Speaker 3:Just back back like that your, your picture of your girl was hot yeah.
Speaker 2:She's, she's smoking. You had some good photos in there, yeah, yeah, nice. So he starts hitting me up before I even hit him absolutely.
Speaker 3:You were the aggressive one. Yes, this chick really wants me more than you know, big boy, yeah all right, so all right, so I'll start chatting him up.
Speaker 2:Uh, within, like that, that first week, week and a half, you know, we're just chatting back and forth, texting blah, blah, blah, and he was like, let's talk. I'm like, well, you know, well I'm busy, I travel for work, so I'm always in the airport or flying here, flying there. Got your phone we can chat, yeah, I said.
Speaker 2:I said but I can text you, so I so I'm texting him from my text app number and I'm finally like all right, well, it's cool, let's meet up. And he was like all right, well, cool, I'm working right now in Phoenix, arizona. I'm like shit, yeah, I'm like man, that's a long ride. Man, that's a long flight. We did the Albuquerque not too long before this and it's a long flight with somebody in handcuffs and fetuses a little bit further. So I was like all right, cool, whatever. I was like all right, well, let me know and I'll book a trip and I'll come out there um, such and such day, whatever pretty fast rob I know I was like well, I gotta come, I gotta come through there.
Speaker 3:You're a chick man, I mean they can tell their pick.
Speaker 1:Well, I made you know I made a pick Too available.
Speaker 2:I was going to California I had to go to California and like yeah, because I travel for work.
Speaker 3:Oh, I see.
Speaker 2:So I told him I could stop by in Phoenix for a day or so and see him and then go about my way Okay.
Speaker 2:And I'm sending him pictures of my girl the whole time just to kind of keep him, you know, the bait out there, you know. So finally I'm like, hey, what do you want me to do? Because he stopped responding as much and I was getting kind of afraid that, you know, he's just not interested, no more, or something. And I said, look, I need to know something because I need to book my flight to California and if not, I'd go straight there and then screw Phoenix. And he finally hit me. He's like, hey, well, don't they just flew me back out. They're just flying me back out to the east side. I'm like, all right, well, cool, I'll hit you up when I get back. So you know, I'm texting.
Speaker 3:You got to continue with the story. You got to stick to it. Yeah, you got to stick to it. You can't alter it. No point, I hear you Good job.
Speaker 2:Yep, uh, I get back from California.
Speaker 3:So no time has passed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no time, I know right People out. These fucking people Phone, oh my God, hey, look at me, look at my dolphin I'm so pretty.
Speaker 3:God, all right. So people walk by like we're mythical creatures. Look, a bell-bonded dolphin.
Speaker 2:I get it Like a fish. They really are real Like a fishbowl yeah.
Speaker 3:We're right here, we see you, we can hear you. Anyway, go ahead All right.
Speaker 2:So I get back from California per se, right, mm-hmm? And I'm sitting there chit-chatting it up with him and I tell him I live in Raleigh. So he's like all right, cool. And he's like hey, I got some free time, I'm off for the next couple days. Let's hook up. I'm like I'm down, I can take off.
Speaker 3:You are real easy Rob.
Speaker 2:I'm so easy, jeez, I'm so easy. I want him to get, I want him to.
Speaker 3:I know Want me. You gotta play hard, a little hard to get a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, I do play hard a little bit.
Speaker 3:You know, I don't.
Speaker 2:I'm excited, man, because this dude's finally wanting to hook up.
Speaker 3:We need some chick around here just to give us chick advice, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, dudes are stupid. We're thinking like a dude. Well, no, that's the problem Dudes are stupid we are.
Speaker 3:But then again, I mean, at some point light bulb's got to go off, like this is too easy.
Speaker 2:Look, I don't think he was that bright. Okay, well, too easy. Look, I don't think he was that bright, okay, we don't know him that well.
Speaker 3:He's from Brunton County, all right.
Speaker 2:So he tells me he's up in Richmond Virginia. I'm like, oh cool, I'm not far from there Of course not. I said all right, let's I pick a hotel right off of 95 South, right south of Richmond.
Speaker 3:How are you just randomly there?
Speaker 2:I told her I was going to drive up there. I told him I was going to drive up there and go hang out with him and I was going to get a hotel room and if everything went well, he could stay the night. And blah, blah, blah. He was like cool. I was like all right, let's go get dinner first. He's like all right.
Speaker 2:So I'm, I'm booking, I get in my crook and I'm driving as hard as I can to 95. Then I'm no, 95 north, and the whole time he's like all right, cool. And I'm trying to time it right. Well, I couldn't because I was so far away. I called some guys that are bounty hunters up in Richmond. I was like hey, I need you to grab this guy for me. He's like yeah, no problem. So I told him. I said you know the hotel I was setting everything up at. They're like all right, cool, we'll be there, all right. So I got everything set up, set up.
Speaker 2:Oh, this dude's being late by the time I get there. I'm, I should, but all right. So I'm driving. I'm like five hours away, four or five hours away, four hours, something like that. Okay, so I'm about halfway there and he just shows up at he shows up at the hotel. He's late and he doesn't want to come in and I'm like, hey, I'm in, like I'm in the shower, I'm trying to get ready, you're late, I'm hungry and you're just being a pain in my ass now you gotta bitch a little bit yeah, yeah, I start bitching.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I gotta bitch about everything, right?
Speaker 3:yeah, you gotta act like you're in demand, not him yeah.
Speaker 2:So he was like okay, this is what I'll do, I'll order some. Uh, I'll order some food and we can eat it here at the hotel. I said, fine. I was like, but it better come now, cause I'm hungry. And he was like okay, okay, what do you want? And I'm like, I'm looking in the area of like places to eat. I'm like, uh, olive Garden, that's good right.
Speaker 3:Yes, I didn't know. I guess you can order. I don't know much about Olive.
Speaker 2:Garden. Yeah, he goes. Okay, I'll order Olive Garden. What do you want? I'm like all right, let me look and I'll let you know. So I call the hotel and girls, what y'all like for dinner tonight it's on me, and they were like from where I'll go? And she was like, okay, cool. Well, they gave me a list of everything and I had some stuff on and I'm like and I sent it to the guy I'm like order this and have it sent to room such and such.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And the girls at the front desk will take it. Okay, okay. He's like I'm on the way, I'm on the way, so he does. The food gets there and the ladies at the front desk call me and they're like oh my god, thank you so much. I'm like hey, don't worry about it, it's not even on me, it's all the dude I'm after. He sent it and I was like so y'all enjoy, this is for for helping me out. All right, cool. And so he's sitting in the parking lot now and he's scared to go in. He's like I'm scared to go in. I'm not myself, you know, I'm just I'm scared. You know I've never done this before. And so I said I'm like look, I'm sitting here in a pair of thongs and that's it, Eating Olive Garden by myself and there's so much food here. Are you going to come up and do this or what? He's like yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like oh, send me some pictures. What in the world? We have some crazy people out here Crazy homeless person.
Speaker 2:He's like send me a picture. So I send him a picture of of of my girl, like waist down, you know, and he sends me a picture back. Now, when he sends me this picture back, I heave, I drive heave. It's a picture of his penis that's erect and it's nothing Dude. I think there's more hair than penis. I saw.
Speaker 3:Okay, we can leave, that's enough.
Speaker 2:Hey man, if I have to endure it, you can do it.
Speaker 3:No no, no, you're living in the past, dude.
Speaker 2:All right. So it was disgusting. And I'm like, no, no, no, this is all. You're living in the past, dude. All right. So it was disgusting. And I'm like, ooh, yay, come on up. And he's like, all right, I'm on the way. So I got these two bounty hunters that are sitting on a bitch outside the front door of this hotel and they're not looking like, they're not looking suspicious or nothing. They're not looking suspicious or nothing. Dude finally comes walking in. He walks through through the front door and the bounty hunters get up and walk in behind him. And when they walk in behind him, they bear hug him and said you ain't going nowhere, bro. And he was scared to death. He didn't know what it was, that they put him in handcuffs and the girls at the front desk the guy told me this after this. But the guy looked over and saw a bunch of Olive Garden them girls were throwing down.
Speaker 3:That's cool.
Speaker 2:And so I finally get up there like 20 minutes later. I mean I'm booking it, they meet me, I get out, meet them, we switch off, I pay them, I get back on the road and start heading back and he gets a little. He's a little mouthy little guy, but I told him. I said bro, I said you don't want to do that too much in his truck. I was like, well, it's just me, so I'm like I'll hog tie you in the back if you want. But he was pretty cool. But man, when I got here late I was like two o'clock in the morning when I finally got- back.
Speaker 3:That's terrible.
Speaker 2:That was horrible. I met um the bondsman at the gas station out there. Uh, where you come into um wilmington when I'm gas station, what a big flag is anyway. So I meet him there, he pulls up and I get out and dude this bondman's pissed, he is mad, he drags this dude. He drags this dude out of my truck, switches cups and throws him in his truck and it was gone. Now that's $25,000 saved. A few days later, three, four, five days later, maybe a week, I don't know I go down there to write a bond and I see this woman outside and I hear her say his name. I'm like oh, so you're Mama, you're the one I'm talking to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So you're doing it. You didn't know anything about it when I talked to you, right?
Speaker 2:You didn't know nothing about it when I talked to you and she's she's like oh so you're the bondsman that went and got it. You tricked him. I'm like well, what are you?
Speaker 3:You lied to me. Yeah right, that's the thing is, when we write these bonds and then they go bad, and we got to start figuring it out you don't know who's lying to you and who's telling you the truth. It's really hard because you would like to think that people want to, you know, make things right.
Speaker 2:Well, she acted like it was a crime to trick somebody.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a crime when you lied to me about not knowing anything. Yeah right, you know I mean. So that's the story of the dirty electrician. Sounded like it.
Speaker 2:Oh God, it was so nasty. Yeah, oh God. And I think he like he had other stuff out there like child support warrants. He been on the run for a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2:No, no, I think he actually went to prison.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I think he finally went to prison. Maybe you should write him some love letters. You know what?
Speaker 2:If I could remember the dude's name, the real name, that would be pretty funny to do you could put some pictures in.
Speaker 3:You know from like I never saw you. That evening I found out you were in jail yeah, I wanted to keep this romance going oh god, thank god I could change that number, uh, on my text app. Oh, that's nasty not funny, she just holy crap she looked like she had antennas on her head.
Speaker 2:Man, we gotta, so we got a. Uh, I guess we got a salon, yeah salon next dooron, next door, here A few doors down.
Speaker 3:Women come out like hair, looking all crazy and stuff, I guess. But money in the meter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, they come out. They got a bunch of aluminum in their head. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3:It's like she could pick up TV stations.
Speaker 2:How about that ambassador that came by this morning?
Speaker 3:Yeah, what was ambassador that came by this morning? Yeah, what was that.
Speaker 2:So he got these ambassadors downtown, which is kind of cool that you know town does, but but he does. But he's like if you have any problems, you have like dog poop, human feces throw up. I was like what, if you gotta?
Speaker 3:tell business, I mean that's. We've been out here I don't know a long time and, like you know, it's actually getting bad to where we'll come. We'll come clean up human feces. Just call us like what does that tell you, dude? Like maybe you should work on the homeless problem, the mental illness problem. How did you hear? Did you hear?
Speaker 2:what uh trump did? No, what so the, the, the money that was being funded to house these illegals, the illegals that he cut off? He's taking that money and diverting it to homeless veterans.
Speaker 3:Sounds like a great thing to do.
Speaker 2:Is there a?
Speaker 3:problem with that liberal people.
Speaker 2:Take care of the US. I think what it is. I think what it is. They don't like liberals, don't like themselves, they don't like the way America has been run, well, has run by us white men, because that's I mean. I'm just going to say that's what the lady said. Omar Ilya.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she said the white man was the problem. Hey, that's a great thing to say. You know, from a person that probably Should not be in our country, who married her, what her brother I don't know, I don't like to get citizenship.
Speaker 2:I hate her, I don't like her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't either. Anyway, we won't get too political here at the end. Just a little something To make you think about things, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm just I'm glad to see um our country going in the right direction.
Speaker 3:I think it is man. I think people need to chill out and um cause.
Speaker 2:You know China and them. I did a uh China and the U? S come to an agreement.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just saw that we'll hear more. But yeah, and like, oh yeah, in the stock market, my neighbor all I heard out of him when we had those big drops, you know he was all over it. He was like man, how's your 401K looking? Well, guess what.
Speaker 2:Did you walk out saying it's looking pretty good this morning baby?
Speaker 3:we had. What was it the following week? It was 2500 points increase and like it's just been increasing now they haven't been huge numbers after that, but I think the s&p is at a new all-time high. I mean, what do you want, man? I the dude's doing it.
Speaker 2:It's just not as fast as he said. Look at what he's having to fight. He's having to create peace, trying to create peace throughout the world. Focus on our stuff here. Rfk is going to town, I'm glad to see that.
Speaker 3:I want to hear more of him and stuff that he's doing. I mean, you've got the dyes out of the food, some of them but you know we've had this topic. You know we've talked about this is um. You know, I hear about other people that go to other countries, like italy, and you know they can.
Speaker 1:Carbs are different.
Speaker 3:They can eat their flour, their flowers, is not enriched with things like ours, is right. There's um you. They're able to eat foods and not be like terribly bloated Like you know. If you eat pizza here or pasta or something, it's just our food is not too many preservatives, too many chemicals added. They keep you sick.
Speaker 2:Well, it's got to have a longer shelf life.
Speaker 3:you know that too, so it's too much.
Speaker 2:But if you ask people like in other countries, hey, do you go out to eat or do you make food at home? A lot of them say, well, we cook at home.
Speaker 3:We don't go out to eat but it doesn't really matter there because in general their food does not have this stuff. You know the people that go to our restaurants. You know I go. You know I'm a business owner. I go to uh, early morning business hours and I see people that own restaurants picking up their supplies and that's. You know same place that we're shopping sam's club or costco. You know costco doesn't have early morning but sam's does, and you can see business owners there that own mexican restaurants.
Speaker 3:Mexican restaurants and all that they're loading up for their restaurants cooking. So it's our stuff, no matter if you cook at home or you go out to eat, it's our food Right.
Speaker 2:Well, hopefully we'll start seeing some results. I'm sure we will.
Speaker 3:I'm hoping so. I mean, it's going to take a while, you know, to reverse some things, but I would love to see some certain things get banned and make our food good, because I mean you go back and look at pictures of people at beaches in the 70s versus today. I mean the obesity rate is crazy. Yeah, so you know it's not genetics.
Speaker 2:I mean you can't change genes that quick. We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 3:Well, anyway, on a posi note, the week's looking good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I'm ready. Dude, I got. Well, I only got today and and tomorrow, and then I'm all for five days, so it's going to be nice.
Speaker 3:I'm going to outer banks before I go to the concert. I didn't tell you about that, yeah, oh, when are you leaving? Uh, next weekend, oh, right on, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, hope you enjoy your time up there man, outer Banks is pretty nice.
Speaker 3:I haven't been there in a long time. Man, I'm kind of researching, kind of looking forward to it. It's like from Wilmington to Outer Banks is four hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a haul. There's no straight.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's going to do it for this session of Off the Hook Podcast, and we got another one we're brewing. We're going to do a collaboration with a guy from Arizona tomorrow a bondsman out there, a bounty hunter and we'll have another cool story for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, kenny, so stay tuned. But other than that, I'm Rob, I'm Chad, and we will talk to you later.
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