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Tracking Down "Barry the Menace" After His Social Media Stunt
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob.
Speaker 3:Very fine people on both sides.
Speaker 1:These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
Speaker 4:What's going on guys. I'm Rob and I'm Chad. What's up?
Speaker 2:Oh man, it's been a pretty good weekend. How about you? Yeah, I had a nice birthday party in the neighborhood. It's been a pretty good weekend. How about you?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I had a nice birthday party in the neighborhood. One of our neighbors had a birthday and it was very good. What's?
Speaker 2:his name again.
Speaker 4:Raffle, Raffle. Happy birthday Raffle Raffle's from Poland.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:He's one of our Polish friends.
Speaker 2:Really nice guy. Really nice family. Oh yeah yeah, I met him through Chad and they've been awesome. Other than that man, this weekend has been hilarious to me. The Daytona 500 was this past weekend. Right, where is it at? I found this dude on TikTok. His name is.
Speaker 4:Cletus. Yeah, you can't forget.
Speaker 2:Cletus McFarlane. This guy is hilarious. I'm going to find it. Hang on, I'm going to find it. Here you go.
Speaker 4:Ripped around Daytona like a bald eagle. I was flat out, you know, avoided a wreck, which was awesome. I thought I was the best driver to ever exist in that moment, and it's probably because my sleeves were cut off. So real life, ricky Bobby. So real life, ricky Bobby.
Speaker 2:Real life Ricky Bobby. This is awesome. I love NASCAR and I love. I will pull for him just because.
Speaker 4:How do you think a guy named Cletus would turn out? Seriously, it's awesome man. I love it.
Speaker 2:You have just gained a fan, sir. You just gained. Other than that, my band got together yesterday. We're, we're throwing, we're throwing a wrench and everything. We're changing it up, man. We're playing some old rock and roll. But speaking of old rock and roll, chad found something that was oh yeah.
Speaker 4:So the other thing was the uh canadian, uh us hockey match.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I was going through as I do and I found this guy. F around and find out. This hockey game was last night in Canada between obviously you can tell US and Canada and if there's ever games between two different countries, out of respect they played both of their national anthems and, as you can see, during the United States anthem, the canadians in the stands were booing and what happened next was beautiful. Within nine seconds of the game starting, there were three fights.
Speaker 2:usa won every single one they're beating the shit out of each other us then scores three unanswered goals.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, and after each and every goal they played Free Bird Love it In Canada. And the best part about it we blew them out in their own stadium. This is what you like to call karma, booing the national anthem to the best country that has ever lived. Have a good one.
Speaker 2:Yes, see, you don't boo us, we'll come at you, man, we'll come at you. Them boys they were fighting. They were straight up throwing down, and the US beat every single one of them up and then scored in their own stadium and played free bird. They keep fucking around.
Speaker 4:They're going to find themselves the 51st state.
Speaker 2:I love it, I love it, I love it. So, with that kind of being said there, chad, our story of the day is bury the menace to society. Yes, so let's start. It was out of Brunswick County. It was a smaller bond. This is a long time ago when I first came on.
Speaker 4:We don't let anything go.
Speaker 2:No, we do them all. No, the co-signer paid it, but he I remember he made a comment on social media that we would never get him.
Speaker 4:That's right, that he made it and he he's, and he was being straight up. That's where he really screwed up.
Speaker 2:He screwed up because I was like you know, we took it personal now it's personal, yeah, so this story is bury the menace and since it's bury the menace, we're going to start it off right way. Usa baby. All right, all right, all right, all right. So, with that being said, barry thought it cute to to taunt us online because you put out a slammer pics, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So my my website slammer pics, you know is is where I put my wanted people. The purpose of that is so that I can I can drive their name up in the rankings. So it doesn't matter if you work on under the table you know anybody that wants to search and if I've got you, if I've done my end, where your ranking goes up just by typing your name and you can be found, you know and like pictures and see contact, so-and-so, and it's worked many times.
Speaker 2:You put it out there on social media and he commented on it, remember. Yeah, that's when he kind of said y'all never find me, ha ha ha, guess what?
Speaker 4:there's nowhere you can go, that there aren't other people, that if you get it in front of them and you add a little dollar sign there, he might be a criminal. But he's stupid, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's very stupid. He's sitting in jail right now. Oh yeah, so before this episode, you know, we're trying to get our facts straight, you know, to tell you guys, um, how it really happens and stuff. He's currently in jail and this, this story, took place years ago 10, almost 10 years ago.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like this was a long old one and uh, but it was funny, so he's sitting in jail now, um, in pender county, yeah, and like I was like, oh my god, look at, look at the list of charges. It's like I'm on my computer screen. It filled up the whole screen and it's in small print. So two of his charges are attempted murder, murder. Now his total bond is nine million five hundred and sixty thousand. Yeah, he's not going, he ain't getting out, he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2:No that that this guy needs to stay in prisons.
Speaker 4:He is a minister. Society, he is, um, originally, this, this stuff that we got him out was fairly petty. Yeah, I think who was a co-signer on that one? Do you remember I want? It was a family member. So I mean, you know, we thought it was decent enough to we do it. I mean we can't, like we say we don't have a crystal ball, we don't know who's gonna make it, and we try to make our best judgment call, you know, based on a few things like your job and how stable you are in the community, stuff like that. Um, but but Chad, wrote this bond.
Speaker 2:You wrote this bond. Uh, yeah, yeah. You wrote this bond and say it comes out time to pay it. Co-signer paid it.
Speaker 4:So yeah well we do our due diligence. We, you know, we have um what is it 150 days, 150, 150 days after the moment that they missed court to fix it or something. So we had, we had uh, the address that we had on the paperwork was like a family member you and I remember we went down there, we sat in a car, we watched.
Speaker 4:It was like down a gravel road and, like I want to say, there was like a house across the street and we parked over and we're down and watching and waiting to.
Speaker 4:You know, see, if anybody came there and, uh, ended up being a waste of our day yeah it was a waste of day and but it's, you know, necessary for us to eliminate a damn cherry but fall off, you know we have to eliminate, you know, certain addresses. So what was it? How do we do we get a response? Oh, that's right, you had a. You had a fake girl.
Speaker 2:I had a fake girl, fake girl account that you had on social media. So we get, we're looking Catfishing. Yeah, we're cat. I get on it and he interacts with me. This is right. After he says on social media you'll never find us. Yeah, okay, so it made me want to get him even more. And so, chad, so we're doing our thing. Yeah, and he starts talking to me through my fake girl this is awesome, I'm hearing it, god. And he's flirting with me. I'm flirting with him back through my fake girl. This is awesome, god. And he's flirting with me. I'm flirting with him back.
Speaker 2:You know, dudes are stupid. Dudes are stupid. They love. You can get a dude with money and women women mostly, more than anything Cause it's awesome. So I'm flirting with him and we're going back and forth. He says he's out of town. Now, with him being out of town, you know all you can do, cause he's not telling me where he's at, but all you can do is try to. You know, just keep, keep the conversation alive. So we did. And Chad here. He was out of town. What were you out of town for, chad, do you?
Speaker 2:remember that long ago I have no idea dude but he was out of town for something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Um, you never know when you're going to get the, the, uh, the call you know, you never know when you're going to get the call.
Speaker 2:And he hits me up. So Barry hits me up and says, hey, I'm in Laura, south Carolina. I'm like, okay, cool, I'll come down there, I'll find a bar.
Speaker 4:Didn't you use the old girl that you used to be with? Was she like your voice?
Speaker 2:Yes, she was the voice To talk to him.
Speaker 4:I mean, you seemed legit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was legit. I was legit because he's like I want to hear your voice so I would have my girlfriend at the time my ex now talk to him over the phone. He was all about it and I kind of give her the story too.
Speaker 4:He's got pictures, he's got a voice. I mean he's hooked Right.
Speaker 2:So Chad's out of town and I'm trying to scramble because now he's telling me the last minute he's in Loras. I'm like, all right, let's go. So I call James. James is already down there in Myrtle Beach doing something. So I meet him right outside of Loras. We get in his car and I picked this little bar. It's a little strip mall, it's got a bar in it and it has an ABC store and a couple of other things.
Speaker 2:But I close at night and I'm on the phone with him saying you know, hey, I'm texting him, hey, I'm in Loras at this bar. And he was like you know, hey, I'm texting him, hey, I'm in Loris at this bar. And he's like all right, cool, I'll meet you there. And I told him. I said look, there's an ABC store right next to the bar. Go in, get a bottle, because I wanted to see what he looked like before he went into the bar. And he goes inside get a bottle. Now he pulls up in his car I don't know if anybody else is in that car with him Goes in the ABC store, comes out, puts the bottle in there, comes walking down the sidewalk I know it's him. And James, I'm telling you I'm like James, that's him.
Speaker 4:We got to pounce on this here shortly. Yeah, he was like a tall, lanky, skinny bill.
Speaker 2:Smelly. Yeah, I don't know how he was trying to pick up a girl, because he's just nasty.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was a scumbag.
Speaker 2:Meth is one hell of a drug, so anyway. So he's walking down the sidewalk and he goes into the door to the bar and he's on the phone with my ex at the time. He's on the phone with her right now and she's like yeah, I'm in the bathroom, just hang tight. And when he walks in that door, I'm like James, this is the only time we got to do it. We got to do it. Now. He said okay, so we get up and we start not running, but not walking, neither. We were doing a really fast getting to the door, trying to be sneaky. Well, he sees us and man, when he sees us, man, it is all done from there. He comes out, he swings on me and I duck and I already had my taser out, so I turned around as soon as he swung. I shot my taser and it hits him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and this dude, Both electrodes get him.
Speaker 2:Both of them. It was a perfect shot, nice, so he gets it, yeah, and he's on the ground he looks like a 2x4, like shaking.
Speaker 2:He goes stop, stop, turn it off, turn it off. I'm like turn around, put your hand, like belly on the ground. He's on his back. I'm like flip over and show me and spread him. He wouldn't do it. He kept cussing at us, so I just let him ride it. I let him keep riding the lightning and I'm like I turn it off. I'm like turn around and he wouldn't. So I did it again. Yeah, and james goes. Hey, bro, if you want that to stop, you might want a day. I'm turning around because he ain't going to stop he learned a lot.
Speaker 2:No, he learns, so we jump on him once he once he does, we jump on him and we get in my handcuffs and I see from my peripheral somebody coming out of the dark towards me and I look and it's his buddy. It's his buddy, it's his buddy. And he was coming at me like he was angry or whatever. Well, this time we got him halfway in handcuffs. James is getting the other hand. I pull my gun, I pull my pistol and I point at him. I'm like, hey, bro, you come over here, I will shoot you. And he, he just threw up his arms like that. I said oh, I'm good I don't want that.
Speaker 2:I don't want that smoke so we get him in handcuffs and I look, turn around, look and the whole bar is watching out the window. It's hilarious, I, I would love to be them people inside. They were all smiling, laughing, they were beating the shit out of them. And so we stand them up, calm them down, tell the other guy his buddy that was with him, hey, you need to leave. He ain't going nowhere, he's going back to jail. And he goes. Man, I knew this was a setup and, of course, what do you?
Speaker 4:say Chad, no, you don't, or you wouldn't have shown up Exactly.
Speaker 2:You thought you were going to get lucky tonight and get you a piece.
Speaker 4:Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 2:And you didn't. Oh, that was so great. So, all right, the funniest part of this story we haven't even got to that yet.
Speaker 4:So you load him up.
Speaker 2:Well, before I load him up, we're patting him down, oh yeah, that part, that part, yeah, that's kind of gross. It is kind of gross, but it's the funniest shit. So we're patting him down, literally.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, you got to check him out, see what's on him, because you can't be taking anything to the jail.
Speaker 2:He had a knife on him. Whatever he had, his pants are about halfway down his ass.
Speaker 4:He's one of them. Soggy bottom boys.
Speaker 2:He's a soggy bottom boy, so I pull his pants up. I'm like, hey, bro, we need to pull your pants up before you get in his car Because I don't want him back there. He's bare naked in the back of my car because we had to take from James' car, we had to leave there and go get my car Right and we transferred him into the car just in case somebody wanted to follow us. Right, well, I pull his pants up and he goes. Oh, I said well, said what's wrong, he goes. Man, I hate talent saying this, but I shit myself. Oh god, I shit myself when you taste me. I was like, oh, I was like well, I guess you learn next time not to not run but evidently he didn't because he's sitting in jail right now.
Speaker 2:Nasty individual I've noticed he's been back like quite a few times yeah, he's a regular and we always keep the eye on him because he's always in and out.
Speaker 4:But there's another part of this story that I don't know if you've remembered to tell.
Speaker 2:Which one.
Speaker 4:Well, when y'all got to the jail, oh yeah, yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 2:So we go right down the road, we transfer him over to my car, james takes off back to Myrtle and down the road, we transfer him over to my car, james takes off back to myrtle and I head up to brunswick county. So I only got about 30 minutes with him alone in the car. I'm ready to get him there, right, and he's talking shit to me the whole time he's talking shit.
Speaker 4:Is he being like like, how did you just have him cuffed, or did you use transport cuff?
Speaker 2:oh, I had. I had his leg shackled, so you had the shackles. Yeah, I had okay.
Speaker 4:So yeah, he definitely is one that you want to have, like secured absolutely, because he, I could see him fucking yeah, he's talking shit.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm like dude. I told him. I remember telling him in the back I'm like dude, I won't be talking shit. You got enough shit in your pants right now.
Speaker 4:I said you don't need to worry about that I said you're going to jail, cooked dude you need to sit and just simmer in your own juices. Nasty oh my.
Speaker 2:We should have called him Barry the Shitty Pants. But no, he's the Menace of Society. Alright, so we get to Brunswick County Jail. I call them ahead of time, let him know I'm coming in with him and they're like cool, and it's busy that night at the jail. There's a tons of bondsmen, there's tons of people there. So I get out the car and I'm I'm bringing him in and he and I have to bring him in front of everybody, right, right. So I sit him them down. I'm doing paperwork, you know, at the surrender and they take him and and he's talking crap to the jailers on the way back too, and and right before he went back, I was like, hey, you might want to change his drawers, he's got jit all in them. And he was like man and they shut the door.
Speaker 4:That was it but wait a minute. No, no, what about? Wasn't the dad?
Speaker 2:So while I was there, you called me and said hey, I got two bonds for you to do in Brunswick. I'm like, all right, cool, I'm here. So I'm calling you know, I'm calling the people and getting them to come up there. And I remember there was another bondsman that was up there named Rick, and he was sitting down and I'm filling out paperwork for these two bonds and this dude comes in. This older man comes in, he starts cussing at the jailer and he's like who in the hell is this bondsman to come in here and like trick my son? That's, that's against the law, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, whatever it is I that's against the law. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah, whatever, dude, I don't say nothing, I'm laughing about it, I'm smiling and Rick's smiling too, and so is the deputy at the desk and he goes, keep talking keep talking, dude, he goes.
Speaker 2:I heard he tased my son. I'm gonna sue the hell out of that bondsman. And I'm just sitting there smiling, I'm writing my bond, I'm doing my thing, and he sits down right beside Rick, he sits down right behind me too and he goes man, you son of a bitch. I wish I knew who this bondsman was and we let him go on for like five, 10.
Speaker 4:Keep talking, brother. We just let him go on.
Speaker 2:We just let him go on. He goes. I'm going to kick that son of a bitch's ass. I'm going to give him something I'm going to do this, that and that. I'm on my own. Yeah, I'm going to do this, that and that, and you know what Rick does. Rick goes. Do you know who that bondsman is? And Rick goes yeah, he's right there. I turned around and I said yep, it was me, I'll tell you what you're going to do. And he goes. His tone changed.
Speaker 2:You didn't have to do that, man, you didn't want to do it oh man, yeah, I think he got. I think he had some other charges too, so he got a bigger way, bigger bond than what we got him.
Speaker 4:I don't well, he ain't going nowhere now, I think.
Speaker 2:I think dude's cooked yeah, I think he's gonna spend the rest of his life in prison. Yeah, I hope so. I mean, somebody like him needs to stay in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm. It finally took, I guess, attempted murder for them to keep him.
Speaker 4:But what's crazy is, someone like him in New York would be out.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 4:And if you saw the list of charges dudes in there currently that's bad. Yeah, like just two of the I don't know. It had to be easily 40 charges. Two of them were attempted murder, man yeah, it's Like.
Speaker 2:It's crazy how each state's different and like we it's different Like ever since Biden took office. It a year after that we were screwed Like it's been horrible.
Speaker 4:All of the big Democrat run cities are like that. Yep, all of them.
Speaker 2:You go to more rural areas, it's different, but then again so the state here couldn't implement bail reform on a state level. On a state level. They had to go district to district.
Speaker 2:They had to go district to district in the judicial system. So now the Superior Court judge and the district court judge, they come up with a bail schedule and that's what everybody has to go by so they can bypass the state doing it, which I think is is totally unconstitutional. But we'll see, because now things are starting to change. Things are starting to change. I see Michelle up there doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, she's got a. She's got a big thing going on in um like Syracuse or somewhere like that Up at Albany. Is it Albany? Yeah, albany, is it Albany, yeah, albany, okay. Yeah, that's coming up actually in like two weeks, but anyways, she does a lot for all over the United States, for everyone she's got a great heart.
Speaker 2:That's in a good spot. Michelle, we love you.
Speaker 4:She eats Liz Bree's bale. You know, that's her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amazing, bail, you know that's, that's her. Yeah, um, amazing. Unfortunately I'm going to be down in pensacola in uh may, but she won't be there. She comes in june, so I'll be there like right before she gets there. So I was kind of hoping to see her, but yeah, whatever um, yeah, yeah, I want to go to.
Speaker 4:I want to go to one of these conference. We're going to go to montana. Is it wyoming or montana? That's montana that's montana yeah yeah it's beautiful, I cannot wait billy billy's montana, that's in july. I want to say yeah, it's coming up.
Speaker 2:Maybe we'll do our podcast from there probably.
Speaker 4:She'll probably ask us to bring everything out there too, which is cool. Yeah, I got a case for it now. So we're good, okay, cool yeah, it was paying going to florida with all this stuff, it was that was the first. That was the first time that's ever happened yeah, we were literally like still learning to use some of this stuff, you know, so we got some other. We need to like add some stuff like other cameras.
Speaker 2:I know we we need a producer to be in here to mix it up. We need sponsors.
Speaker 4:Hey, that's a good idea. We had some, but I don't know what happened with that.
Speaker 2:Uh, I think they they're still down for it. I think they might.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we just it was, they were at conferences. They say, oh yeah, we'll sponsor you, and then like we come home and like we don't hear anything, yeah, so I don't know Well other than that man I'm ready to see this week.
Speaker 2:Oh, this week everybody Cash Patel's going to get confirmed. He should, he should. I hope so, because I really want to see who's on the Epstein list.
Speaker 4:You know people. I'm tired of hearing everybody say well, when Trump got in office, he's supposed to lower everything immediately. I mean, okay, as far as the eggs go. According to Joe Biden, when they were going up under him, it was bird flu. So which is it? Is it the president or is it bird flu? Which one?
Speaker 2:Well, you've got to give him a minute. He's only been in there for a month.
Speaker 4:He's been steady signing all these things that he's reversing that Biden did. He's got a lot to undo that that fool did Give him a minute.
Speaker 2:And he was at the Super Bowl and he was at Daytona 500 taking the beast around. This man is everywhere. Yeah, he's all over. Did you see JD Vance across season? Yeah, jd Vance is doing stuff to set himself up for the next, I think so he's really good.
Speaker 4:I think he would be a good one, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Time will tell. I'm excited. I'm excited to see it. Give him a minute. I promise you, I'd rather pay an extra dollar for a dozen of eggs. Oh yeah, so I can see all these liberals cry.
Speaker 4:And this deal with Elon Musk, and they're like losing their freaking minds. I look on TikTok and liberals with blue hair are screaming. You know Elon's taken away.
Speaker 2:Hands in a cookie jar. You just don't want to get caught it's money.
Speaker 4:You've heard this like for the past couple of years. We're, you know, spending $10 million to see a fish drink Jack Daniels. What effect it has on them. You know stupid stuff like this.
Speaker 2:It's just a way they're stealing your money and you don't care my biggest thing was the 50 million dollars to some country in africa for condoms. Why are we, why are we, sending our tax money to that?
Speaker 4:there's, there's a, there's a ton of these weird. I think they just sit around and think up.
Speaker 2:I got a good one man, I got a good one. Hear me out, I know right. I think it might be a cover-up for them putting money in their pocket. Oh, you think yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep. So I cannot wait for them to find that and go after them and prosecute them like they should be.
Speaker 4:Somebody's going to have to go to jail soon. Yep, yeah, I want to see that you know, Anyway.
Speaker 2:Well, that's it for today's show. Guys, we appreciate you listening. We've gotten some good response back from people. They love the show, they love what they hear. We're happy to keep doing this. Drop us a comment. Yeah, go to YouTube. You can see us, our pretty faces, smile one time for the camera.
Speaker 3:Okay, there you go, that's a good picture.
Speaker 2:Uh, you can go on there and see us and you can comment and you can subscribe and you can get involved and kind of go from there and just follow us, because you know we're we've got a lot of people coming on, we got regina coming on, she, she's going to be coming on and she was sick.
Speaker 4:She was sick of the flu or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, it's been going around bad Anywho, all right. Well, if you like I said you like what you hear you can see us on YouTube, off the Hook Bell Bonds Podcast. We're on Spotify and everywhere else. Look us up. But until then, I'm Rob and I'm Chad and we will see you next time. Peace, I'm Rob, and.
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