Off The Hook
Off The Hook
Southern Escapades in New Orleans and Mississippi with Chad and Rob
Ever wonder what it's like to mix the holiday spirit with the thrill of the hunt? Join us as we recount some unforgettable memories, from our festive reflections on holiday greetings to our passion for duck hunting gear. Our journey takes you down memory lane to the vibrant streets of New Orleans, where we rubbed shoulders with figures like Clay Higgins and shared adventures with Beth Chapman from Dog the Bounty Hunter. The camaraderie and humor we experienced during our Southern escapades offer a heartwarming glimpse into the world of bounty hunting and the unique charm of the Southern states.
Have you ever had to chase a skip without the luxury of Google Maps? We share a gripping tale from the late '90s, where we had to rely on old-school investigative techniques to track down "Bob the Builder". We paint a vivid picture of a high-stakes bounty hunting operation, where strategic planning and clever disguises were the order of the day, all while maintaining a sense of humor and camaraderie that kept us grounded.
From encountering unexpected drama involving gunshots and fire to orchestrating a daring boat chase, our stories highlight the unpredictability and excitement that define bounty hunting. We delve into the ethical and legal considerations that come with the territory, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and adherence to the rules. As we wrap up, enjoy some light-hearted moments that showcase the cinematic flair of our adventures, reminding us that the world of bounty hunting is anything but ordinary.
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob.
Speaker 2:Very fine people on both sides.
Speaker 1:These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
Speaker 2:What's going on? Everybody, I'm.
Speaker 3:Rob and what's up, I'm Chad. How you been Chad Good Robert.
Speaker 2:Approaching the holidays, uh, I know right. So this episode kind of will go out, uh, right before christmas or next week right before christmas yep, so everybody at home. We hope you have a very merry, merry christmas and I'm glad we can say merry christmas, yes, we can I didn't know, we never could. Oh well, yeah well. I know You're supposed to say happy holidays.
Speaker 3:Whatever, it's Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas if you're a conservative. Happy holidays if you're a Democrat.
Speaker 2:Or you could just go cry somewhere. Hey Chad, how do you like the shirt I wore today, sir?
Speaker 3:Man, that is a nice shirt.
Speaker 2:Right, right, let's see if I can see it, if I can turn around, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, see it in the back, okay, yeah. I like that man, I like it, that's nice.
Speaker 3:Guys, this is my look. I got those for Rob and I for duck hunting.
Speaker 2:I'll be huge duck hunting and I've got a few others.
Speaker 3:If you guys want any, I'm getting the site together.
Speaker 2:He's got it going on, guys, I'm just saying, I'm just saying I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it. I like it, I love it.
Speaker 3:I want some more of it. Yep, we're going to work on more of it, that's right.
Speaker 2:Oh man. So how's the family doing? Family doing? Well, we're good man. We just trying to do the rat race through the holidays. Yeah, so I thought it was fitting to wear this shirt today, since we're going to be talking about the Mississippi, louisiana area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we went to a conference there a few years back Down in New Orleans. Yeah, new Orleans is when we met Mr Clay Higgins, if you can see him right above my head, you see right here. Yeah, that year was that was the last time. Um, I think we went to the PBUS. Um, not sure, might've been, hey.
Speaker 2:I don't know it was right after Beth Chapman died. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, cause we yeah, I remember you, you sponsored something that that day it was a. Yeah, that's right. There's a picture, you and I with the sponsorship board for, yeah, for the beth chapman foundation.
Speaker 3:so if I I don't think we've even told the audience about our relationship with beth and and and dog and and leland, I think we they know about leland yeah, because we, you know, we do a lot with leland but we know dog and beth, we knew, we knew yeah, um, and we got to meet him a couple times and talk to him, got to talk to him she wasn't we do a lot with Leland, but we know dog and bat. We knew, we knew, yeah, and we got to meet him a couple of times and talk to him. Yeah, talk to him. She wasn't fine that we were possibly getting a show.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, Well that was another issue, um, but yeah, that never happened, so she she's the best easy that Louisiana area and Mississippi area.
Speaker 2:She's gonna rest easy that louisiana area and mississippi area.
Speaker 3:Man, it's, it's a whole different world down there. Yeah, so it's like it's like for us, it's like crossing the state just going from state to state down there so we were running like um louisiana, mississippi, they all like just touches you can be in different states speaking of that, that area, did you hear about Phil from the Duck Dynasty? I did hear something about it he's got Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2:So I'm a big fan of Duck Dynasty. I love the family. We'll send a prayer out to you and your family and hope the best, and you know I'm glad he's.
Speaker 3:Duck Dynasty. It's the only duck I had. Glad he's. Duck dynasty. There's only duck I had.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:Arms reach.
Speaker 2:So now do you want me to go ahead and play this for you?
Speaker 3:What's this?
Speaker 2:This is something I picked out for the show Okay sure Ready.
Speaker 3:This is on Rob Mississippi.
Speaker 2:Queen yeah baby.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's me, mississippi Queen. All right, so I guess that leads into my story time.
Speaker 2:I can tell stories. I got too much to tell. Of course Chad's going to tell this one. Guys, I got too much to tell. I can tell stories. Got too much to tell. Of course Chad's gonna tell this one. Guys, got too much to tell. I can tell stories.
Speaker 3:Got too much to tell. I can tell stories. Got too much to tell. I can't.
Speaker 1:NBC.
Speaker 2:All right. So this story Chad's gonna tell, because this is something that happened before I came along. It's been a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I said, some of these stories we're trying to tell before they get too old to remember, and this one goes way back. This is actually when I worked for a guy when I got my start, and this was a skip from Wilmington. The guy was, I remember he was a builder here in town. He basically got paid to do a job and he took the money and never did it.
Speaker 2:So are we? What are we named? Bob the Builder, Bob the.
Speaker 3:Builder Yep, so Bob the Builder, like I said, got out. I remember it was a $10,000 bond, was a ten thousand dollar bond. Um, he left wilmington and took off. Well, this was going back a long time ago when we didn't have the internet like you know it now. I mean it was, I think it was in the early stages so I mean people can't.
Speaker 3:You know a lot of bondsmen and people can't even theorize. You know what it's like not to have the Internet as we know it. But, yes, some of us are old enough to know what it was like before. Then, Damn Chad, don't tell you anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know right.
Speaker 3:Well, so you have to do the old-fashioned way. You have to go visit people, you have to physically show up on their doorstep, you have to make phone calls. And what we did with this, I was handed to it. I was, I was a rookie, you know. Just figuring it out, there was a guy in our town, here in wilmington, that all he used to do was go around to all the bonding companies and he was the bounty hunter and he went. I remember he went to, uh, bob burton school of bounty hunting out in arizona. So we thought he was. You know he was the stuff, you know he knew it. He'd been to bob burton's place, right and uh, I hired him as, and uh as well, the guy I worked for did, and I went with him. So this guy had his little minivan rigged up with the shackles to the floor.
Speaker 2:What color was it? I'm curious, the van.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the van, Do you remember? I don't know man, it was. Just, you know it was very inconspicuous. You know you can blend anywhere with those things. Yeah, so anyway.
Speaker 2:Is that where you got your love for vans that?
Speaker 3:might have been man, I don't know man. They're just comfortable to travel in.
Speaker 2:They're really good on gas I mean, you know, yeah, I mean they're roomy. We've been in a quite a few and they have a lot of cool features.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Yeah, I mean I don't want one. I actually did have one later. It was one that was kind of ragged out. I used it for doing pickups, oh god. Yeah, my wife hated that thing. I had a couple vehicles that were really hated. I had this little chevy hhr. If you guys know what those were.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah and and back.
Speaker 3:When I started, you know I wanted to get my my name out there and I had it wrapped um by image monster here in town. They do all of our wraps that you see behind.
Speaker 2:They've been in business for a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, uh image monster.
Speaker 2:We've got to give you a big shit out. You do a good, great job. They do all this stuff too.
Speaker 3:They do all this stuff. But, um, I had them wrap my logo on a little silver HHR. It was a guy with a hook in his mouth, you know off the hook, and he had a big hook. Anyway, that was something the owner came up with and I was like, all right, that's cool. It definitely caught people's eye. So you know park places and people would remember the name, right, and that's the whole point of good advertising, right yeah, 20 something years later, we're still here doing it.
Speaker 3:I guess it worked so anyway, I got up with this dude that you know was the bounty hunter and we go through the paperwork. You know we got this skip and it comes down to how well did you take information? James wouldn't do good at this, you know he would fail he doesn't get information.
Speaker 3:He relies on his PI skills, but I had you know, pretty decent, you know from the start, if you do it you will continue to. So one of the names on there was this lady. And again, back then we didn't have the databases that we have now that we use so and I wasn't a licensed PI at that time so I didn't have access to anything else. I don't know if it was available. It probably wasn't back then. I mean, we're talking literally 1998.
Speaker 2:Wow, I was still in high school bro yeah. I was in high school having a good time in 1998.
Speaker 3:school bro. Yeah, I was in high school having a good time in 1998, so we got together, went through the information. I start making phone calls. I call one lady that's his mother. Now this guy um, let's see bob the builder. He had to be in his late 40s, early 50s, my guesstimation, from what I remember, and he had a few brothers. They were all in the construction trade. Construction's one of those jobs that you can be pretty.
Speaker 2:Pick up a hammer and go.
Speaker 3:Exactly Like painters, like house cleaners so many house cleaners. I'm not making fun of the professions, but they are ones that you can leave and start somewhere else.
Speaker 3:We just hear it a lot we get a phone call hey, what kind of work do you do? I do house cleaning. Hey, I'm in construction, so really you have no tie to anything, right? So anyway, that gives you a feel of kind of who I'm chasing here. I got one of the numbers on the uh information sheet and it was his mother. So I call up not as Chad the bondsman, but as Chad one of his friends, looking to get up with him. So I got a really big break. She said I'm not she. She didn't think anything of it. She said oh, he's down with his brothers down in Mississippi working on a house. They were, there was a hurricane that went through there and they're doing hurricane repair to these houses down there.
Speaker 2:So how did you like, did you have that like gut, like that gut wrenching feeling when she told you that, Did you feel a sick like damn? I got to go all the way down there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I was. I was basically by myself back then. You know the guy that that went with me. I mean, he was just kind of hired. You know he got a percentage, like like any bounty hunter, um, to help, and this was on the guy that I worked for. But I wrote the bond. So you know, I took it upon myself to go do this anyway. So now we have a phone number and we have uh, we know that he's in Mississippi at a house. Back then you had to be a little more creative on how you were going to find out things like who owns a house. You have to make calls, right, you know. And we were able to find out who who belonged to the house that they were in. We were able to find out that. I remember that. So now we're ready to go down there and watch. Look. And we took off, went down to Gautier, mississippi.
Speaker 2:And that's not a short drive from here.
Speaker 3:No, gautier is right on the Gulf and it's like right next door to louisiana, um, and you, you can drive there along the gulf. Right there, you can be in different states in a matter of 30 minute drive.
Speaker 2:I've been through there.
Speaker 3:It's pretty like boom, boom, boom you're right, it's like for us, it's like you know we'll leave one week to win raleigh. It's like you've already crossed two states in that distance. Right, you know, you're in the florida panhandle, mississippi. Um, you go to louisiana anyway. Um, we get down there and um, we, we, we go down. I remember it was a uh like a just a little road with houses, like a normal neighborhood, and they were at the very end of it. Now, usually in these situations, these types of folks, when it gets this far, they're usually a problem for other people. You know, that's, that's usually I can see where you know like.
Speaker 3:This is why I've told you, when we go places like you, you find a good neighbor.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Neighbors are awesome. Yeah, if you find the right neighbor, they will be an ally to help you. I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 2:I've seen it. I can't tell you how many a dozen times?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can basically somebody it's easy to spot, for the most part because they usually take care of their stuff and you know that they don't want anything messed up. If they have a nice yard and they have nice things, they want to keep it that way.
Speaker 2:But back then, though, you got to remember like today it's a lot different than it was back in 1998. Yeah, 1998, you had, like you didn't have the fentanyl problem. You didn't have the fentanyl problem.
Speaker 3:you didn't have. No, I think this guy was a drinker, but that's been around forever, yeah, but I don't think he had like the drug issue that that's out that we have to deal with today. Um, it wasn't like that. But and so I have his number, all right. So we get down there, go down the street, he's all the way at the end and, well, the house was the address. We look around and we see a neighbor's house and we're like bingo, that's the guys that we want to go and talk to. So it's a gamble, but let's go do it. But you're down there talk to. So it's a gamble, but let's, let's let's go do it.
Speaker 2:You're down there. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean yeah, it's go time yeah yeah, you got to pull the trigger.
Speaker 3:So we go up, we talk to them, we tell them who we are and what's going on. They're like yep, we know exactly who you're talking about. He's in this house next door to us, but he comes and goes and there's, he's got like three brothers so how was the neighbors demeanor?
Speaker 2:were they like straight up, 100 forthcoming or?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, they were very. In fact, they had an open carport on the side of their house, you know, like just one of those little with a roof and little metal things that support it.
Speaker 3:So, so you can see through. It's not bricked in, right? They said you can use, you can, you can park up here and you can do anything you want. Just get rid of them, don't you love them? I love those. The neighbors are awesome, so, yeah. So we pull up in there and it starts getting dark, and dark is when you got the fishbowl effect going on in the house, right? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:Now this is going back when you know people actually had landlines. You know he had. This was a landline number that we had, so I could sit there in that carport with binoculars and at night and literally watch them pick up the phone. I call and you know, see who picks it up, because we're looking for we're looking for a visual to to verify who we're looking for. This house has three brothers and some of them have wives and it's like a lot of people in this house, so they basically work in it while they live in it, what they were doing. So we never saw him. We didn't see him. So we had to get more creative to flush him out, right? So we went to the Gulf I forget which area of the Gulfulf, but we rode over, we were able to find out that they did. They did some work somewhere else. I remember that we checked uh home, depots and lows and stuff like that, because they'll have boards where they put their cards up to get business oh, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're, you're, you're bringing up stuff that like yeah it's coming back to me now yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So so we were able to find an area that they'd been in and, uh, the name that he I mean his last name is what you know we're able to to identify oh, bob the builder, okay, cool, um, that's what I'm trying to. Okay, so what we did me and this, uh, the other bounty hunter guy what we did was we posed as homeowners. We found we went to a real estate company that had a house that was on the market and we told them who we were, what we're trying to do, and they were like, oh, that's so cool, you know, we want to you know what?
Speaker 3:what do you need? Well, back then you didn't have. No, this is before, this is before dog the mountain.
Speaker 2:Yes, before any TV show I've been around before he was honestly. I have been doing this thing, I don't know, but the show wasn't on. We'll put it that way, so show wasn't on. No, uh, I don't think many people has ever really met when I was.
Speaker 3:No, I remember when I saw a dog the the uh thing for uh the uh ad for dog the bounty hunter coming out. I was in new york city and I saw a poster and I was like what the hell is is this?
Speaker 2:It didn't exist back then.
Speaker 3:And I didn't know what to think of that. I'm like, okay, that's kind of crazy looking, but all right, you know he had a good run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it turned out to be a big thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So back to the story Um, uh, we, oh yeah. So we set up in this home as as homeowners. All right, they even let us borrow their. They had, like, a bronco with florida tags, so we had a rental minivan and it had north carolina tags or something. Well, we're trying to keep it completely, you know, inconspicuous. So they let us use that. We're cool. So we split up, we caught, we had a number, we called and said hey, you know, we got this house for sale and it needs some dock work. It was had a little waterway and behind it we need some dock work done to in order to get this sale to push through. We'll pay you, you know, x amount of dollars.
Speaker 2:You're, you're, you're, you're flaunting the money in front of them there.
Speaker 3:You can't, they can't resist right, you get priority right. So we're trying to speed it up. We're like, look, we got a sale for this. If you guys, if you guys can do it, you get the, you get the job and, um, you know, get a bonus, you're gonna good money. So they met us, they met well, they met with my partner. He would have known me. So I stayed across. There was like a shopping center across the way there. It was like a four lane highway thing and I just blend in with my little minivan. I'm sitting there looking with binoculars from across the road and, um, he pulls in and then eventually I see this work truck come and these guys get out and the guy's like, you know this, this needs repair and you know, whatever they, they're happy, you know they got the job Right. Well, our guy was not in the car and it wasn't in the truck, but he overheard one of the guys say that they had to go pick Bob up and bingo, that's our guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so you're still and you don't have trackers in either.
Speaker 3:No, we did not have trackers. No, we had to literally follow and not lose. So yeah, I know, man, it's like things have gotten a lot easier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he calls me. And this is going back. I remember I had one of the first cell phones. Remember the ones that looked like a little brick Nokia's.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, I had one. I had a little Nokia.
Speaker 3:I think that's what I had Um when he he called me. Those were some good phones, oh yeah, you could throw it at a wall and it was fine.
Speaker 3:Yeah you could. He calls me and he's like he's not in the car, but we need to follow him and it's cool. So he goes over to the, hurries up at the parking lot he said, keep an eye on him and he gets over there after their meeting and jumps into the minivan with me and leaves the Bronco there. We head down the road and we're following. We're having to catch up. They're a little ahead of us and we spot them and we see them pull into this little strip mall, right, you know, and one of the things that was in the strip mall was a little jewelry store. And we pull up and we know where they're going to go. They're going to go back to the house. We're just wanting to catch them, hopefully picking him up. Well, we pull into the jewelry store and we go in and we're like hey, was this guy? You know we had a printed picture of the guy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It's not pulling up your website and showing pictures on your phone. Yeah, it's a printout.
Speaker 2:So we're like and the printouts wasn't the best in the world. They weren't the best quality in the world.
Speaker 3:No, they're usually black and white. You usually didn't have color.
Speaker 2:God man, yeah, yeah, you make me feel old now. Oh damn, that was.
Speaker 3:So we show them the picture and everybody's like they're and everybody's like, oh yeah, he was in here and, uh, he, he had a wedding ring. He was trying to, um, what was he doing? He was doing something with this ring, but he had to come back and get it and, um, we're like you know, we, we told him we kind of bumped it up what, what his charges were.
Speaker 2:Oh, man Did you pull a wrong.
Speaker 3:Well, again, we have to speed the process up, so we kind of bump them up a bit. It's a means to an end, right, right, all right.
Speaker 2:So they're like yes, he does, he knows Whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Now we know that he's there. Right, right, we know he's there.
Speaker 2:So what are y'all thinking? Are y'all thinking about waiting for him to get back to the jewelry store?
Speaker 3:or All right. So now we know that he was being picked up, we know that he had a ring there and he's in the vicinity. So what we do is we go back to the house where the guy lets us, you know, right next door to him. We just let them go, you know, we know where they're going eventually.
Speaker 2:Well, you know where he lives, yep, you know that he's being picked up, so he's got to get a ride from this guy and you know he's got a ring at the jewelry store.
Speaker 3:They're all his brothers, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I mean they're all going to be close.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So we go back and we watch and later that night we see a car it's a different car that came out and we're like, all right, let's follow this car. And we follow it for good ways. They go to a Walmart and we didn't see. We were trying to, you know, get away from them but still watch the entrance Not right next to them, but you know, you know how it goes when you're trying to be a little inconspicuous, when you're trying to tell somebody. So we see two people get out and go into Walmart and we're like, crap, All right, well, let's just watch that car when they come back and see who it is. Well, it wasn't too long, it wasn't too long. And here comes Bob out the door he's holding I remember he was holding two gallon jugs of water.
Speaker 2:Getting ready to go build a.
Speaker 3:In each arm. You know, heading back to the house Getting ready to go build a pier, I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, hit him with a car. I get out and you know, run down there and like what's up, bob, his eyes got like freaking that big, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I know that, look bro.
Speaker 3:You know that, look, yeah, yeah, it's like oh shit. And you're like oh, he's like, how did you? And like he just couldn't believe it and that was just. That was awesome.
Speaker 2:So I grabbed them, and how was the ride?
Speaker 3:home. Well, we weren't done exactly, you know, we still had. That was that was kind of late at night. We had the next morning to travel Because I mean, we were, we'd been up for days, like two days. We hadn't really slept much. That's not a good feeling, no, no. But the next morning, early, early, we headed out and yeah.
Speaker 2:What size was that bond? Do you remember 10,000. 10,000?.
Speaker 3:I remember it was a 10,000.
Speaker 2:That's worth going down to Mississippi for.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I was young and miss it before. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, you know I was, I was you know young and uh, I was. You know this was my first big. I want to say it's my first you know big skip and um, it freaked me out, you know, I was like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go out like that. So wow.
Speaker 2:So y'all got up, y'all, and y'all came back. How was the ride with him? Was he like cool?
Speaker 3:No, he was fine man, he knew he had to deal with it at that point, that relief.
Speaker 2:So 98% of the people we go get guys. They're pretty cool.
Speaker 3:On the way back Usually for the most part because they know they did wrong. You get tired of looking over your shoulder all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like a relieving stress.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's what we did is we're relieving his stress. He knew he was going to have to face it.
Speaker 2:Until you told the neighbors that it was different charges.
Speaker 3:No, that wasn't the neighbors, that was the jewelry store. Oh the jewelry store Until they find out we just need to confirm the guy was there.
Speaker 2:You know, that's all that's a trick, that's a trick you told me about and I ran with it and then remember we went to go get. I mean, you know it's yeah, yeah but I mean so was that new Hanover.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was new Hanover, yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's when the jail was downtown.
Speaker 3:That was when the jail was downtown. That's right. Yeah, I remember that too, that big ugly red brick building down here. Oh yeah, it was gone now, but yeah, the church bought it.
Speaker 2:So well cool. So uh, bob the Builder, do you know where he's at now?
Speaker 3:I have no idea, dude, that was so long ago, don't know, but I think he learned a lesson, I hope.
Speaker 2:You know most of the people I think we go get. I think they do learn a lesson Most of them. Some of them don't Like the guy we had to get. Remember how we got him like three times, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:He was just dumb. Oh yeah, that made me think, man. You know, just like what I have found in the news that I got a notification about last night. Oh yeah, Because we were telling everybody that we were going to go do a pickup.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went and watched the place for 12 hours.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we had another bondsman that contacted us that wanted us to go get one of his skips. What was that like a week ago? How long ago was that About a week ago? Yeah, it was a little over a week ago, A little over a week ago, Anyway we went and did it after our podcast and we spent the day out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just watching the house, and in the afternoon we finally went in.
Speaker 3:We contacted local PD, talked to a detective. They all had been there trying to get this guy and no luck. They said that they thought the guy was in the house but they couldn't go in, I remember, and nobody had been there for quite a while. And then, you know, we watched. So the guy had to have his defenses down. There's no way that, you know, he suspected that somebody was out there after this much time. You can't be that hyped up all the time You'd be a nervous wreck.
Speaker 2:And when we searched the house, they didn't even know where we were sitting at, because we were we're hidden. Yeah, we searched the house. There was no signs of them, and that was a week and a half ago, and evidently this happens sunday, sunday night sunday night.
Speaker 3:So I got a notification that, uh, uh, the guy. I didn't I forgot his name so I wasn't 100, but I text you the uh, the link and uh, it was actually the guy that we were looking for. Yeah, that evidently the cops had been. They said several bondsmen had been there. Uh, I don't know what they mean by several. We're two and I think maybe one had been there several months prior. Um, but anyway, the guy wasn't there when we went and we had no, there are no signs of him. Um, but they got him something about gunshots and fire. He set a fire in the bathroom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it hurt gunshots Like the fire department had to get caught out and yeah, so that bondsman shaved it really close. I think it was due next week His 50,. What was it? 50,000. 27,000. That's what he told us.
Speaker 2:Uh, you never saw a uh forfeiture I saw one forfeiture, but you know how it works. It could be multiple charges, have different forfeitures, I don't know. They give you the lowest one, so they pay you the lowest fee, right? Yeah, that's you, that's you know.
Speaker 3:Tricks of the trade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tricks of the trade that we don't like, yeah, but it happens. Yep, but man, 31 minutes already, Damn.
Speaker 3:Yep, that went quick. So that was Bob the Builder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bob the Builder, so that was in 1998.
Speaker 3:Old school yeah, my very first skip that I had to deal with on my own. Basically I can say it's definitely better having a team. It is People that you know have different perspectives, and we have a ton more tools now to do things in an old school way.
Speaker 2:It's so much easier to find you now. Yeah, yeah, an old school way, so much easier to find you now.
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter, because everybody, everybody has a digital footprint footprint, yeah, but at the same time, there are more ways to be deceptive than there used to be yeah, but you can, you can, you can.
Speaker 2:Oh, we've been doing this long enough, though, chad, that you can tell the difference and you can. You can filter out the crappy stuff and what's really real, and we, we've done that a ton right and we, it's happened yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we're not. We're not perfect. We're always there are going to be more skips. We got, we got yeah, we're down, we're doing good yeah we're down, we're doing good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got one.
Speaker 3:We're clearing our board down Any of you guys?
Speaker 2:out there need some help, let us know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'll be more than glad to help you out, but make sure you have some paperwork and have some stuff in there, oh yeah, and have a legitimate source that's giving you information, absolutely About someone being in a house or not. I think this bondsman is trying to set us up to go in and, uh, third party well, all right so you can't go in a third party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just can't go busting in a door like you know you. You see on tv or uh we can first party home yeah, first party yeah, but when it comes to third party, no, we can't. So there's different ways to get into the house of search, but you got to do it the right way, and if you don't do it the right way, you can have a world of trouble.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You've been a lot of legal breaking and entering kidnapping. Yeah, I mean you can get all kinds of trouble and guess what.
Speaker 3:I like, my family so does Chad, and we like to stay out of jail, you know we like you know, helping people, we play by the rules, you know, so you can do it, you can do it. Yeah, you know, you just got to be patient.
Speaker 2:So that was a good, good story, Chad. I remember you said something to me yesterday about I was like man, I think you need to tell that one, so I think that's a good one for Bob the Builder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, I think that's a good one for Bob the Builder. Yeah, man. So I wanted to tell that one before I forgot it, but I think legitimately, I think that was my first one that I had to go find.
Speaker 2:I might tell the next story. I might tell the one where I got the dude on the boat.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, that was cool. I'm commandeering this boat. I'm commandeering your boat Now, straight out of the movies. I'm coming there in your boat, like straight out of the movies. That was fun. I like when they go home, somebody in the car and they pull them out of the car. I'm coming there in your car, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that to his boat for real.
Speaker 3:He's like, yeah, I'll take it, I was like all right cool, Did you throw him out?
Speaker 2:No, he drove. I thought you should do it. I did. I stood in front like Jack Sparrow. Oh yeah, I was like come here, but that's for another story.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, let's wrap it up.
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Speaker 3:We'll make it happen, Kevin.
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