Off The Hook
Off The Hook
Bondskip tries to run over Bail Agent on North Carolina Backroads
Ever wondered what it's like to chase a fugitive through the back roads of North Carolina? Get ready for a wild ride as Rob and Chad welcome Salvatore, one of the most experienced members of our team, to share some unforgettable bounty hunting stories. The episode takes an electrifying turn with the caper of a fugitive hilariously dubbed "Blowout," who literally plunged into the water and emerged with his pants blown out. This escapade is just a taste of the high-octane adventures that make bounty hunting so fascinating.
Brace yourself as we recount a high-stakes $30,000 bail bond pursuit that takes us through the winding back roads of Richmond and into the heart of Onslow County. Despite our detailed strategy and the use of non-lethal rounds, the fugitive managed a daring escape in a Mustang, showing off his local terrain knowledge. We also tackle the serious challenges bondsmen face—legal risks, financial burdens, and the complexities of different bond types. Salvatore brings invaluable insights into these hurdles, rounding out an episode packed with thrilling chases, notorious criminals, and the unpredictable nature of bounty hunting. Don't miss out on this action-packed episode that promises to keep you on the edge of your seat!
When people are released from jail, they have the responsibility to appear in court, but some of these people choose to go on the run.
Speaker 2:They go back home to mommy.
Speaker 1:And that is when these guys come into the picture. So sit back and listen to the Off the Hook podcast with Chad and Rob.
Speaker 3:Very fine people on both sides.
Speaker 1:These are real stories, but the names have been changed.
Speaker 2:What's going on? Everybody, I'm Rob.
Speaker 4:I'm Chad, and we've got a special guest here with us.
Speaker 2:Look who it is salvatore over here, the, the big italian guy what's happening, sal?
Speaker 3:oh, same old shit. Every day trying to make a dollar out of a dime uh, it's especially these days with bionomics, motherfucker, hell, yeah.
Speaker 2:So how you been brother, mean anything exciting going on in your world.
Speaker 3:Same old shit. Man, Every day is another day. Kids doing good, yeah. Yeah, See she's in tumbling class. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Oh, I bet you, she's like knocking over everybody, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:She tried to show me a somersault off the couch the other day and Amber had to catch her and grab her.
Speaker 2:Right on man, you're like grabber. Uh, right on man. How about you chad? How, how, how?
Speaker 4:you been all good, all good man, just uh, we're enjoying this nice weather. This morning we got a nice cool front coming through and everybody thinks it's fall false fall. For us it'll be hot again, but we're enjoying it now.
Speaker 2:One day one day it'll be cooler, but I just been leaving, so it sucks. I think next time I do I'm gonna call somebody and hire them. It sucks, oh so I'm gonna find it. Hang on. Let's see y'all. Y'all keep going. I'm gonna find this shit hang on a second. So what's going? I gotta find a story time for us. Man, I can't remember where is that okay?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, yeah. So today we're going to talk about, since we've got Sal with us. We're going to have some episodes with him and he's been a big part of the Off the Hook team and recovery, and so we've got a guy that was in Richlands, north Carolina. It's right outside of Jacksonville, north Carolina. Yeah, yeah, richlands, north Carolina. It's right outside of.
Speaker 2:Jacksonville, north Carolina, yeah.
Speaker 4:That's the one we're going to lead off with, which is a pretty good one.
Speaker 2:It was wow, we had a lot of story. It's a long story for that one. I'm still trying to find the damn thing.
Speaker 3:That was the one that the guy was what was it like a 30,000? It was like a 30,000. I remember one guy wrote it and was like this is not my shit, I don't want to deal with this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we actually called another bondsman who was more familiar and he goes oh yeah, that guy tried to run over me when I went to go get him one time. Oh yeah, that guy tried to run over me when I went to go get him one time. Yeah, and we were like really, really, well, guess what you?
Speaker 3:know we've got part of our story too, so I think the funny part with that one was oh, you got it.
Speaker 4:I found it. Oh, it looks like we're going into story time.
Speaker 2:It's riffraff. I don tell stories. I got too much to tell. I can tell stories. I got too much to tell.
Speaker 4:I can tell stories. I got too much to tell. I can tell stories, I got too much to tell. That's funny.
Speaker 2:Okay, here we go, that's it.
Speaker 4:We like some riff-raff right.
Speaker 2:Usually I had to.
Speaker 4:You got them stars in your ceiling right? Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:So Sal, all right. So what are we naming this guy?
Speaker 4:Oh, so this is Blowout.
Speaker 3:No, we need to give him a name we got to give him a name I'd call him Blowout.
Speaker 1:Remember when we pulled him out of the water.
Speaker 2:We got to give him a name, I'd call it Blowout Remember when we pulled him out of the water. Oh, yeah, fat Michael Phelps.
Speaker 3:Remember when he pulled him out of the water, he had no ass left. He blew his pants out.
Speaker 4:Remember His ass was just hanging out, wait, wait, wait, save it, save it, man, until we get to that part, okay, all right.
Speaker 2:So Blowout, blowout. It's a Mr Blowout here. Let me tell you about Mr Blowout. Who wrote that bond? Was it me?
Speaker 3:No, that was Eric. Eric wrote the bond.
Speaker 2:He wrote it at Onslow County, jacksonville, north Carolina. It was a $30,000 bond. Chad, eric and Sal went after him first.
Speaker 4:I wasn't with him, it was just me and Sal. Yeah, we rode down there. We took the back roads down to Richmond. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we take the back roads down there and we're like we don't, like we don't really know where this guy's at, so we go by like where the one trailer was, which is abandoned.
Speaker 4:And we're like he's got a girlfriend and this is what she looks like. We weren't sure. And man, we're like sitting there and here comes the chick walking down. Yeah, remember that trailer, though, dude. We walked in it and it was destroyed and it was like dog shit all inside the place there. I mean, it was destroyed and right across the street was his dad's, yeah, and we went over and talked to his dad because his dad drove up and he was like I ain't seen him in a long time. I don't know where he's at, and we're like all right, well, you know, there's stuff written on the walls in there and like it was just trash sitting out in a field of vines and stuff growing around it.
Speaker 4:There were little kids' toys out there, you know, you always got to indicator that they got kids with them and stuff wherever they went, and indicator that they got kids with them and stuff, if they're uh, wherever they went. And um, yeah, like sal said, we were pulling out and we were getting down the road and there was a girl on the side of the road.
Speaker 4:We're like I think that's her like that's the chick yeah, so we're going through our files and we're looking at photos and everything that we do before we go, you know, looking for them. You know we've gotten all our social media pictures and everything we're like because I think she had a tattoo or something on one of the arms and I was like that's her and we pulled over and Sal was like I just said, hey, what's going on?
Speaker 3:I'm like, hey, are you done? She's like yeah.
Speaker 2:In Sal's, in Sal's, in Sal's accent. Hey, hey, what's going on? I'm like hey, what are you doing? Come over here, we're talking, you got a problem.
Speaker 3:So like come here, so she comes over and then she starts talking to us and we're like, yeah, that's her, you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah and then we like offered her like a couple bucks or something to you know she's like yeah, I'll take you right to him she goes. I know where he's at. He's uh, he's hanging out at uh his who has cousins or something. It was some trailer on the other side of town, right, and so yeah so we pull a lot, we, she pulls in.
Speaker 4:We needed gas. That's what it was. She needed gas and we're like, okay, we'll give you some money for some gas. We'll take you, you know, to the um, to the station, and she filled up her car and she's like follow me, yeah. And so we followed her yeah, remember that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we follow her and she pulls in and there's blowout standing there working on his car yeah, so he had this old busted mustang, you know, with the hood up, and we're like, okay, cool this is it like this is a good time because he's not really paying attention, but I don't know what's going on yeah.
Speaker 4:So we didn't want to blow it for her. We're always considerate of whoever it is that gives us information, so we didn't want to like make it obvious it was her. If we would have pulled in right behind her, they would know exactly right. So, yeah, we went down the street into a field, waited for a minute and we started putting on our gear, remember, yeah, and like we were like okay, we're, we're ready. South got the. Uh, we got the shotgun out the bullpup with the non-lethal rounds in it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we uh we're like all right, you're ready to go do this?
Speaker 3:yeah, and we pulled up and uh, as soon as we pull up man that dude dove in his car and he just starts wheeling it back and forth.
Speaker 4:Chad's like boom yeah I was letting him have it, man, and he got out of there and like, when you came out of the driveway there was like a blind curve, it was like trees and stuff. Driveway there was a blind curve, it was trees and stuff and it was a real sharp curve that they lived in. So, if anybody would have been coming at that moment when he pulled out.
Speaker 3:Well, because, when we ran up on him, chad got in front of the car Like don't move, put your hands up. And he drove in. So when he started to go, chad was literally in front of him and his back end started to fishtail. Chad starts like throwing rounds at it like boom, boom, boom, like stop dudes, like coming right at him. I was like man, this he's gonna hit him. You know what I mean. And he got out of the way and then we ended up chasing him around yeah, but I mean dude was in the 5.0 mustang back roads that we're not familiar with.
Speaker 4:You know, he's just getting it, you know, so we're like we're not winning today.
Speaker 3:No, he we had to let it go because he was like dust.
Speaker 2:I mean plus as bondsmen as bondsmen, we're not allowed to chase uh in the vehicles, so you know we you know what we'll get you another day?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah we have plenty of time, we don't. We don't know what we'll get you another day. Yeah yeah, we have plenty of time, we don't. We don't sit and wait. We have a certain amount of time before these become due. So you know, we like to go get on them as soon as we can, if, if, it possible. So today was fine, we didn't win but we. I think we look what we were dealing with. So we went back and regrouped and came back another day.
Speaker 3:So oh, that was the whole crew too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we brought more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we brought the next time we go out. What was going on that day? What were we doing that day? How did we get to notice that? No, we were going to just go to look for him.
Speaker 4:Remember it was so somebody dropped to look for him. Remember it was so somebody dropped a dime on him that he was across town and a farm. Remember that remember that well remember.
Speaker 3:We all sat up on that one trailer yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:we went to that house and and it was like a decent neighborhood and the guy's's like, yeah, he was here, but he didn't stay here. He took us to where he was staying. He went and he pointed yeah, they gave it up.
Speaker 3:They were like he stays at this little place and it ended up being like an uncle. Yeah, remember it was like an uncle's house and they were like he comes and goes from this uncle house. But somebody else said check this one farm. No, the uncle did. Because we talked to the uncle, he's like no, no, man, he stays over here on that farm. And we drove up and man, it was like this giant driveway and there's the blue car.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was like you had to have four-wheel drive to get in and out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who was that? I was riding with somebody. Who was I riding with? You were riding with Eric. I was riding with Eric.
Speaker 3:It was me and Sal.
Speaker 2:So we all we all pull up like straight up gangster. Yeah, we did. We all pull in there hard right. Yeah, and I get out, everybody's getting out. Yeah, and I start salad Chad, don't run, not well, not well, I run. I run good for about 300 yards and then I'm done, okay.
Speaker 3:You and Eric were gone. Man, that dude just took off. He was like this little shark, fat dude. Yeah, I mean, he was gone like Mario, he was yeah.
Speaker 4:But if y'all remember, do you remember the barbed wire fence? Yeah, yeah, but if y'all remember, do you remember the barbed wire fence? Yeah, I had to jump over it.
Speaker 2:I'm jumping over it. I've got a shotgun in my hand. I've got rubber rounds in it.
Speaker 4:I don't remember anybody jumping over it. I remember people getting through it. I don't jump, I just had to like we cut it.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, we were like I climbed it.
Speaker 2:Like like I just I went over it, like I don't, I don't jump anymore, I'm over 40 man. So I mean he had, he had a good start on everybody. This dude's used to running from everything, yeah, but then I start I'm gaining on him and finally I stop and I pull up.
Speaker 4:Well, I'm like, right, besides, you and the dude's got like he's, he's ahead of us a distance. You and I both have the bullpup shotguns with the non-lethal rounds, yeah, and dudes like I don't know, he's probably 20, 30 yards in front of us, yeah, and we start, we start, you know, firing firing rounds at him and these rounds.
Speaker 4:They only have two little black discs that are in the shotgun um shells that they're not real. They're not real accurate and if you've ever been running and shooting a shotgun at somebody, we weren't hitting the dude bro, let me tell you.
Speaker 2:But we were definitely scared that dude was so scared he was shitting his pants.
Speaker 4:I guaranteed you, that's what so so guy jumps into the pond.
Speaker 3:This is like a big pond, not like a little pond it's like a little lake behind his house, yeah, and all you can see is his little head bobbing down.
Speaker 4:The fucking rob here's still shooting at the guy and all the guys. His little head's bobbing in the water and he's still shooting. I'm like rob, stop you, hit the guy in the head.
Speaker 2:He drowns well, I'm really good, I ran an ammo. Yeah, so we go around the other side me and eric go around the other side because you hit the guy in the head, he drowns.
Speaker 3:Well, I ran out of ammo, yeah. So we go around the other side Me and Eric go around the other side because he's kind of drifting towards that side and I'm yelling at the dude, I'm like, hey, man, he's going to reload you. Better get out of the water. Dude's like all right, man, I'm coming, I'm coming.
Speaker 4:You remember he said I'm on my tiptoes and I can't swim.
Speaker 2:I'm like why'd you jump in the lake? He's like cause I don't want to go back to jail. So I go back to reload and I do, I go back to the truck. I'm reloaded. I'm so fucking pissed off.
Speaker 3:This is a 15 round shotgun, so it's just like completely unloaded and reloaded.
Speaker 2:Here I come back and I said I told the guy before I went to go reloading. I said if I get back Charlie.
Speaker 4:we need more ammo. Charlie, if you're listening, we need more.
Speaker 2:If I get back and you're not at this water and you make me take off all my. I will get butt naked and I will get in there and come get you.
Speaker 3:I don't think we want that he goes. Oh shit man, I'm on my way. And he starts like doggy paddling towards us. That was good.
Speaker 4:Remember I got that picture of you guys like you just like standing on the bank and dude's just like sitting there right outside in the middle and we're like dude, you can't win, you know there's. No, you can't make it to a bank. Before we can get you, yeah, before we can get you, yeah. And he finally just gave up yeah, came over. And he was a big boy. I mean, we had to use two sets of cuffs to. Yeah, he was big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a big white kid. Once we got him out, it was a long walk back. Yeah, and I'm pissed off. Oh yeah, of course we're doing the bad cop, good cop, you know type of shit and we get back where his car was. Yeah, he wanted.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, remember he had tried to paint his car too, to look different. Remember that. He was a semi-car guy, but not a painter.
Speaker 3:His car looked like shit. I mean, it was bad Rob's just reading him the riot act up and down. He's like change your fucking clothes and do it now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, he's standing around four dudes and each one of us have a different weapon in our hand.
Speaker 2:We have to take him out of his cuffs so he can change Right. We're like dude you make one wrong move and we'm going to beat you senseless.
Speaker 3:Oh my God. And so he takes his pants off to change his underwear and his underwear. He blew out the back of his underwear. Literally, his bare ass is just hanging through. You better throw them away, dude, there's no point. You don't want to go to jail like that. That isn't hiding nothing, bro.
Speaker 2:He gets dressed. Once he gets dressed, once he gets dressed, he looks at Sal. What does he say to you, Sal, Can I ride with you?
Speaker 3:please, because you had him terrified. He was so scared and I'm like yeah, bro, come on, you can ride with me. I was like I'll let you smoke a cigarette and he's like cool, thanks bro. He was terrified.
Speaker 2:Oh, Mr Blowout, that was awesome. And then we got him to jail in Jacksonville and they loved it. They knew who he was. He was a regular yeah he had a reputation.
Speaker 4:We had spoken to one of the other bondsmen that's there, it was kind of a regular and he said that yeah, the guy tried to run him over too, and so this was his thing was he will run you down with his car, which is another charge.
Speaker 2:But the problem nowadays is in today's society. If for some reason, let's say the first time, you guys went out to go get him and shit went downhill and he tried to run over you and hit you and you shot an actual gun with a lead bullet, you shot and killed him, they're going to come after you.
Speaker 2:Yeah 100%, yeah, 100%. Because you were in fear for your life and nobody's going to back you, because, oh, you're just a dirty bondsman. Because our current politicians have. You know well, not all of them, but most of our current politicians think we're just scumbags because we're just out here to get money from people, which is bullshit, and it's bad that you know we have to watch our asses because of that. On a legal wide, Because, I mean hell, you don't want to get tied up in the criminal justice system, on the civil side, or even criminally, because you're just trying to do your job and trying to Well, no bond's worth it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm not going to go to jail you know what I mean. I don't want to go to jail over a bond, but we still got to do what we got to do. So we got to be slick. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You got to Did he get bonded back out?
Speaker 4:I don't know he had. I think he ended up. I think he's Spending his time yeah.
Speaker 2:In there, I think he, I think he kind of, I think he burned all his bridges.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken, that was a B bond anyways. So he couldn't. He couldn't get back out Like yeah, nobody Talking about B bond.
Speaker 4:So when you're first arrested, you're under bond A. If you miss court and you're rearrested now, you're under bond B. You missed court once. Now there's a place on the paperwork that we do that we call a bond C, and now it's the second time you've missed court. And if you write that bond and the state gives you notice that it's a C bond and you write that bond and the person fails, we have no recourse. So they want the money from the bondsman if they miss again. So that's why bondsmen in North Carolina will not do a C bond and you want to know why there's people that are sitting in jail across the state.
Speaker 2:That's a reason because of that rule right there. They've had one too many. Fato appears state that's a reason because of that rule right there.
Speaker 4:They've had one too many FATO appears. You know, if legislation would change that bond C rule, we would have a lot of people that could be bonded out and you'd have less people there. So that's you know. If you want to argue about people sitting in jail unnecessarily, that's a reason right there. In my opinion, it's still ultimately on the bondsman to produce them to court. So if you want to, you know they missed two, three, whatever times, and that bondsman wants to take that risk. That's on them.
Speaker 3:If you think about the whole bond thing, I mean the benefit of it is that nobody really says that. You know it's a cash bail thing, Like everybody wants to try to end bail. They don't understand. Like if somebody gets a 500,000 or $100,000 or $10,000 bond, nobody's got $10,000. Right, so they can get out for us, with us for a percentage of whatever it is which gets them out of jail. And then if we have to recover that person, it's taxpayer free, Right, so we're flipping the bill.
Speaker 4:I mean, like we said in previous episodes. I mean we've got a map in our office of United States places We've been that's on our dime, you know times three to travel. Either we fly or we drive, we stay in hotels or however long it takes.
Speaker 2:Ain't cheap. Now I mean think about it.
Speaker 4:You know that would be that we're just one group, I mean there are in North Carolina there's approximately 2200 bondsmen, 22.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but how many are actually out there writing bonds? And you know I don't know.
Speaker 4:Well, either way, you know how many are getting written.
Speaker 2:You know, we know the statistics on how much is paid at the end of the year in forfeitures, which is between 11 and 15 million. But I'll tell you what Jacksonville they are. They ought to have some money in forfeitures coming in. I mean they have some. When a forfeiture comes in for Onslaught it's always a big one. I've always seen.
Speaker 4:Maybe I don't know. I would like to know the statistics on that. Well, there are. I have some older statistics. I'd like some current ones. Actually, I just spoke to Mike Berger. Hey, mike, shout out to you what's up. Mike Ashboro, way out west, we're looking for some statistics so we can drop for you guys on current things and that's with the NCBAA and hopefully we're going to get them in here so we can have a discussion. But yeah, I'd like to have some current statistics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, him in here so we can have a discussion. But, um, yeah, I'd like to have some current statistics. Yeah, so, jacksonville, uh, quick, a really quick story with me and sal here. Remember that guy? We got in a trailer that that makeshift little little room in the wall in the bathroom guy. Yeah, that was a good story oh man, you want to tell that story. Man, we got 10 minutes left. Let's do it, man All right.
Speaker 3:So this was a guy. He was wanted for drug trafficking. It was like distribution for methamphetamine oh dude. And this dude was crazy looking, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think he ever took a shower.
Speaker 3:No, he was like a white guy with Nazi tattoos and dreadlocks.
Speaker 2:All over his face too. Yeah, like make it make sense.
Speaker 3:So this guy's like bonkers right, and then we go, we figure out where his girlfriend is, who also has a warrant Remember.
Speaker 2:She had the warrant, she had a warrant too, but they couldn't find her.
Speaker 3:The police didn't know where she was.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3:So we go to Jacksonville Sheriff's office or a council County sheriff and we're like, hey, we'll trade you information you want to where the girl is, help us get the guy. So she's like they're like, if you know where she's at, great, you know what I mean. So we were like, look, we'll go over there and make contact, cause she'll talk to us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then, and then we'll get y'all to come in.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, then you help us get him, because we know he's in there. Oh my God. So we knock on the door. The girl comes out and she's like, can I help you? And we're like, hey, we're bondsmen, we're looking for da-da-da-da. And she's like he's not here. We're like that's fine, but they want to talk to you. She walks out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So they snatch her up, she starts squirming all over the place and they pull. Why would you be walking around your house with that much?
Speaker 3:meth in your pocket. So we go, so yeah, so yeah, so they arrest her and she's like he's, she kind of like gives us the nod Like yeah, he's in here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the daughter the daughter.
Speaker 3:Well, remember we went in and the one kid was like unresponsive.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he had. Like we CBS got called because there was no way we could leave that place and them not be caught because there was dog feces, it was trash. They didn't. It looks like they haven't taken a shower.
Speaker 3:There's like seven kids in this house too, and one of them is like completely unresponsive. We're like yo, yo wake up, and the cops had to pull him out and he eventually wakes up, but he was just. They were all out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there was a dog in the back room.
Speaker 3:they had to get the dog catcher to come out and then get him out and then remember there was another dog that wouldn't leave the bathroom. Yeah, and I'm like then that dog won't leave the bathroom and I don't know why. But I know this dude's in here because the wife, the girlfriend, was kind of nodded that he was there but wouldn't say it. And so we're like we come around and like listen, if you want mommy to get out of jail, we're bondsmen, we can help you. Where's the dude? And she's like there's a hole in the wall and we're like what the daughter was selling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's back there in the bathroom. I was like me and Sal was over here, like scratching heads going how in the fuck? And then we so we're looking at the distance between the spare bedroom and the bathroom and we see there's a gap. And then we look.
Speaker 3:I look up Remember you had the flare You're using like infrared. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to look through the wall and we're like I know You're like there's a sword back there and we're like what?
Speaker 2:There's like a hidden room, yeah, there was a hole and I was like wall, looking into this little room and so I'm like and and the cops there's two deputies in there with us and they're, and they're watching us, trying to figure out what's going on and and I'm, and salga, I said sal, I said you're a big motherfucker, tear this goddamn wall down exactly what we did.
Speaker 3:So like we clock up to the wall and it's like, right literally where the bathtub is, there's like a. Where the bathtub is, there's like a shelf.
Speaker 2:You got to give it to him. It was really brilliant it was good.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was like it looked like a shelf in the wall. You wouldn't have never seen it. So I start pushing on it and the thing moves. So I take the whole side and yank. The whole fucking wall comes off and dude's standing there like this. He's like I'm coming out, don't hurt me. We're like get out of the wall. Dude Sal's yanking him.
Speaker 2:By his fucking dreads in his arm, yanking him out. All three of us are in this tiny bathroom Fighting with this dude, trying to put him in handcuffs. So we get in the handcuffs and get outside, and oh my god.
Speaker 3:The cops are doing high fives in the driveway.
Speaker 3:They're like yeah we got them like, yeah, we got them and it was so here's the crazy part about that, right, so they would have never found them if it wasn't for us. Yeah, we, literally we put that whole thing together. They were major drug traffickers like this was bad people. So I see that same cop, that, that one deputy from the uh, sheriff's office, and we remember we even went into the sheriff's office and told the sheriff, walked out and we're like, hey, thank you so much for helping us out. We're glad we were able to work together. Everybody wins. They had a meeting about that later with their command staff and they forbid them from ever working with bondsmen again ever in.
Speaker 1:Onslaught.
Speaker 3:County, really yeah. So the next bond that I went and worked out there, I met with a deputy same deputy and I'm like, hey, I got information, I know where this guy's at. She's like, yeah, we're not allowed to work with you guys ever again. I'm like are you for real? I'm like why? She's like I don't know, everything went right, but they got mad at us and they said we and there you go. So we did everything right. Everybody wins. They got so worried about the liability of working with us that they literally just squashed it.
Speaker 2:Liability, Whatever my ass. That's what they told me and I was like. I know it's a pain.
Speaker 4:It sounds like you did everything correct as far as what you could do and what they could do.
Speaker 3:I mean, and they had her on body camera and their body camera saying, yeah, you can go in there and look for him. So it was a consensual search, Like we can they, she consented and she told us he was there. So, like everybody, like it was 100% on board. But I guess they had a problem with it. Like they said, there's too much liability.
Speaker 4:We should have never worked with us and they, and that was it. You know what it sounds about taxpayers of uh, onslow county.
Speaker 2:Um, I wouldn't, I wouldn't inquire about that. Well, guys, that's been, uh, that's it for this episode. I mean, hell, that was good. Uh, a couple little stories there. It's nice to have sal. I don't see it like I met. So I saw sal. I met him up in Cleveland, ohio through Dana Acy, dana hello, hey, dana Saw you down in. Florida. Oh yeah, and so I saw Sal, I don't know, it was a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1:I saw you at Lux Tavern.
Speaker 2:I love that little hole in the wall bar. It's awesome. Everybody gets shit-faced and sings karaoke, and Not me, except this guy. I saw him over there singing to himself. Anyway, they've got good cold drinks and they're cheap too. It's not bad. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 3:Good Long Island.
Speaker 2:Guys, thank you for tuning in for this episode. This is awesome. Stay tuned next week because I think gonna I think we're gonna have some more coming from you. Oh, yeah, uh. So, other than that, that was story of mr uh, mr blowout soggy bottoms, blowout and dreadhead soggy bottom boy we should I should have found out and played that shit.
Speaker 1:Oh shit.
Speaker 2:Alright, guys. Well, stay tuned, keep watching. You can find us on YouTube Off the Hook Podcast. Find us on all streaming platforms Apple Podcasts. Spotify you name it, we're on there. And until then, chad, this is who. Until then, chad. I just got to hear it Recover. This is who. Say your name, sal. There you go. This is Sal. I'm Rob. I'm Chad. We'll talk to you later, peace out guys, see you Later.
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